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Choosing my forever bass: Stingray vs Precision

No, I understood what you meant. I also understand the mechanics of pickup placement and how it affects the sound. I also know that the sound can also be thinner or boomier depending on where and how you pluck. Which is what I was referring to by saying it won't sound like a P if you're plucking above the pickup perhaps.

I still stand by my original comment, but I guess I'll rephrase it to keep the talk bass know-it-alls from getting me to engage in debate that makes zero difference.

You get more sounds with a Ray than the 2 you get with a P.

Carry on, gentlemen.
So you're just going to drop a bomb and then leave, huh?
 
Agreed. I've had a few (and will have another one before long).

There's nothing P-bass-like about a Stingray or SR5.

I've owned P-basses, too, and I have a P-bass-style Mike Lull.

Psst....you really do need both, IMNSHO......:D:D

Psst Psst...Oh, yeah, and a Jazz bass, too!..:roflmao:

Try one of the new Stingray Special HH in the 4th selector position and you can get damn close to the p sound.
 
Its clear that Precisions and Stingrays are amazing instruments that will both have a place in Music History. Both examples of Leo Fender & his various associates finest design work. They are both awesome, and you cant go wrong with either choice.

Ernie Ball does amazing work in San Louis Obispo, CA, it is a great company and they have come up with some solid innovations over the years in Basses for sure. The Bongo Bass is a great design. Its not for me personally, but I really appreciate the design innovation and creativity behind it. Their guitar innovations are even more impressive. True craftmanship and innovation from these folks.
For bolt on necks, the spoke wheel adjustment is the best design ever. And now you see new Fender basses with 4+1 headstocks (5 strings), and spoke wheel truss adjust. The new Flea Bass is a Stringray with a Fender Logo on an it. hmmmm.
To my ears the original Stingray with the 2 band eq is still the best. I have spent a lot of time with Headphone comparison and adjusting pickups, pre-amps and circuits to get my SR5 to sound more like a 79 preEB Stingray. The EB SRs sound amazing, but to my ears the originals got that thang that lead me there in the first place. Maybe listening to Bernard Edwards, Louis Johnson, Paul S Denmen, and others a lot (too much), playing pre EB Rays has me hearing things this way? I havent tried the EB Classic Stingrays with the 2 band, but I am certain they play and sound incredible.

I have a couple of MIA precisions. Love them. They have Jazz pickups at the bridge, which I thought I would use more than I actually do. The musicians that I play with, and the songs that I support live and recorded are never underserved when I use a P with flats, using just the precision pickup. It works.

The key is to find the Bass that allows you to most fully focus on what you are playing (song), and not what you a playing (instrument).

I suspect that the simplicity, combined with the amazing tone of the Precision, is why so many pros end up with these in their hands.
IMHO - The P enables bass musicians to get to the root core (zone) faster and easier, and allows engineers and sound producers to get to the essence of engineering and producing (dialing things in) faster and easier.

You cant go wrong with a Precision or a Stingray. I am lucky to use both.

If i had to pick between the two my forever bass, it would have to be the Precision Bass. This is based on the fact that my role musically has been to support artists and songs, and with a P Bass in my hands I get to that focus faster, and don't feel that there is compromise or sacrifice.
The larger neck also leads me to make more deliberate note choices, play fewer notes, and be more musical.
Just my perspective, but hope it is helpful.
 
Its clear that Precisions and Stingrays are amazing instruments that will both have a place in Music History. Both examples of Leo Fender & his various associates finest design work. They are both awesome, and you cant go wrong with either choice.

Ernie Ball does amazing work in San Louis Obispo, CA, it is a great company and they have come up with some solid innovations over the years in Basses for sure. The Bongo Bass is a great design. Its not for me personally, but I really appreciate the design innovation and creativity behind it. Their guitar innovations are even more impressive. True craftmanship and innovation from these folks.
For bolt on necks, the spoke wheel adjustment is the best design ever. And now you see new Fender basses with 4+1 headstocks (5 strings), and spoke wheel truss adjust. The new Flea Bass is a Stringray with a Fender Logo on an it. hmmmm.
To my ears the original Stingray with the 2 band eq is still the best. I have spent a lot of time with Headphone comparison and adjusting pickups, pre-amps and circuits to get my SR5 to sound more like a 79 preEB Stingray. The EB SRs sound amazing, but to my ears the originals got that thang that lead me there in the first place. Maybe listening to Bernard Edwards, Louis Johnson, Paul S Denmen, and others a lot (too much), playing pre EB Rays has me hearing things this way? I havent tried the EB Classic Stingrays with the 2 band, but I am certain they play and sound incredible.

I have a couple of MIA precisions. Love them. They have Jazz pickups at the bridge, which I thought I would use more than I actually do. The musicians that I play with, and the songs that I support live and recorded are never underserved when I use a P with flats, using just the precision pickup. It works.

The key is to find the Bass that allows you to most fully focus on what you are playing (song), and not what you a playing (instrument).

I suspect that the simplicity, combined with the amazing tone of the Precision, is why so many pros end up with these in their hands.
IMHO - The P enables bass musicians to get to the root core (zone) faster and easier, and allows engineers and sound producers to get to the essence of engineering and producing (dialing things in) faster and easier.

You cant go wrong with a Precision or a Stingray. I am lucky to use both.

If i had to pick between the two my forever bass, it would have to be the Precision Bass. This is based on the fact that my role musically has been to support artists and songs, and with a P Bass in my hands I get to that focus faster, and don't feel that there is compromise or sacrifice.
The larger neck also leads me to make more deliberate note choices, play fewer notes, and be more musical.
Just my perspective, but hope it is helpful.



I recent traded my Jazz for a Ray. Now I got a MIA P and and Ray :thumbsup:
 
2020: I love my Custom Jazz, Hollow body short scale and my Double Bass. Other basses I have loved over the years, Marcus Miller Sig, Tony Franklin Sig, Fretless, Laklands, MTD, Ibanez, Ricks... and recently a Vintage '58 Fender P.

The P bass sits so well in the mix.

It seems like a one trick pony but it's very versatile, depending on strings and approach.

If I had to pick just one bass?
The Fender P Bass gets my vote.
 
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I'm at a point in my life where I want to stop buying and selling basses and own only one bass that I will take to the grave. I've had a P-Bass tone in my head since I started playing so I wondered into the local music store today looking for a new P-Bass. I tried a MIM, a Nate Mendel sig, an American Standard, American Special, and a MIJ E series. I liked the MIJ but it had some dings on the back of the neck so I passed. The American Special seemed like it fit the bill and I almost bought it. Then I asked if I could try the lone Stingray hanging on the wall. I was blown away. It had such a cool tone and the neck felt great, played like a dream. It was an ugly pea soup puke green color, but ugly in a cool way. Definitely more personable than ho-hum black or blue or something. This bass really spoke to me, but I still left empty handed.

Since I'm looking for a forever bass I figured it would be best to think it over. Will a Stingray be a good bass for what I want to do in 20 years. I'm sure a P-Bass would serve me well for any music I'd ever play, but I really fell in love with this Ray. I play in a punk band at the moment, but I also like classic rock, and smooth down-tempo acid jazz. Who knows what I'll be into in 20 years. Is this even a legitimate concern, or will a Stingray work for any style of music?

Also, this is the first time I ever played a Stingray. Was the tone so cool because it was new? Will I grow bored of the tone and long for a P-Bass, the tone that I've always had in my head?

What would you do in this situation? Stay with the tried and true P-Bass, or throw caution into the wind and buy the Ray?
You can never go wrong with a P bass in my opinion. I own 4 precisions and 1 fretless stingray from 1998. The stingray is also awesome but doesn't cover all the bases like the P does. It either way you won't make a bad choice
 
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Woah there's a lot of posts already!

I just want to say that now that you've tried a Ray and really liked it you're going to always want one. I've been there, it's the kind of GAS that even after years sneaks up on you. If you don't buy that Ray you will buy another.

(Was a P bass guy, still will always have my Squier P5 but the others are as good as gone and my Ray5 and JS3V are my new favorites.)
 
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4 string P and 5 string ray for me.
Here is my favorite precision and my one and only stingray:
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The Stingray has a distinct sound, but it's versatile. I have an old one with the 2-band EQ and ok had a preamp bypass installed. With stainless strings and the preamp cranked it's super for slap and metal/hard rock. With less "clanky" strings it can be mellow (a la Sade). Bypass the preamp and it can sound remarkably like a J-bass with the bridge pickup dominant. That big humbucker sounds great in passive mode. I like mine a lot but it's the older one without the body contours so it's pretty heavy for my back but it's a great sounding bass.
 
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