Chord is driving me crazy

[getBAK]

I'm getting ready to start studying gospel/shout bass... which is gonna be interesting as a hate most things related to organized religion. But, there are some truly great players in the genre I can learn from.

This is very basic as a song ,I for the life of my I can't figure out what the bassist is doing at 4:02 - what is that chord? I think this a hammer-on pull off thing, power chord-ish on B-flat... but I can't quite pick it out
Help please

 

[smeet]

Don’t have my instrument handy, bit it sounds like sliding up to a tritone on 3 and b7. So on a Bb7 you would play D and Ab.

 

[Wasnex]

Either a tritone, a major 10th, or dominant 7 chord sans 5

Little lick at the beginning is F,G,Bb,G,Bb

Four possibilities for what comes next:

1. He slides up from F and lands on G and C# (tritone) then slides up to Ab and D (tritone)
2. He slides up from Eb and lands on G and C# (tritone) then slides up to Ab and D (tritone)
3. He slides up from F and lands A and C# (M10) then slides up to Bb and D (M10).
4. It's possible he's doing both (A7 to Bb7)--He slides up from F and lands on A,G,C# and slides up to Bb,Ab,D.

Bb7 (Bb,D,F,Ab)


Either would work IMHO. I think it's 2.

 

[mambo4]

I definitely hear 3rd and b7 (tritone) together at the end of the slide
I think I hear the root (Bb) sliding to up 3rd( D) on the bottom, with b7 ( Ab ) on the top
might be wrong tho

 

[mikecd1]

Sounds like the same kind of thing David Hungate does at the end of Toto's "Africa" if that helps. I don't have a bass handy to give you the notes, but that sounds like the feel.

 

[Karl Kaminski]

as stated above this a dominant chord sound/embellishment over the Bbchord. In this case he plays the bassline phrase, then shifts up an octave (sliding 1/2step into the target diad) D (12th fret) Ab (13fret). finally sliding back down.
(you can add the 'fat slide' as part of the shift into the G/C#, but the essence is the following...)

 

[getBAK]

Super helpful. thank you everyone.
Not something I'd ever play organically over these changes, and it works really well... I have a lot to learn.

 

[Karl Kaminski]

dig, well its the same for all types/styles of music.. you got to get in there and play it. Transcribing is the fastest way IMO to get the essence of a new style. There are so many incredible variants for gospel bass style... you're in for a treat!
good luck

 

[darwin-bass]

So Bb chord with the bass playing the 3rd and b 7th? (D and Ab). Interesting. I may add that to my kit of distracting-things-darwin-does-when-he-is-bored.

I didn't listen much more. After the bassists puts in the tritone, where does the chord progression go? How does it resolve?

 

[Don Kasper]

where does the chord progression go?

(After the Bb7 with the tritone fill), The progression moves to Eb7 (IV7)for 2 beats and then F7(V7) for 2 beats, then back to Bb7.
IMFO, of course.

 

[Karl Kaminski]

After the bassists puts in the tritone, where does the chord progression go? How does it resolve?

...|4 / 5 / |1 / / / |

|4 / / / |1 / / / |5 / 4 / |1 / / / |

 

[lokikallas]

That little tri-tone lick is a classic blues trick to make the bass line sound a little funky. I hear Van Halen use that sometimes.

 

[Paul New]

I love those sliding upper register tri-tone fills. I think, could be wrong, but I think Chuck Rainey put that stuff in the vocabulary.

I with you on religion, but you’re riggt that there’s MUCH to learn from musicians who work in that style, especially the bassists.

 

[getBAK]

I've been coming across a bunch of gospel/shout guys recently and realized this is a blind-spot for me. So much odd phrasing and scale choices

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[Karl Kaminski]

I've been coming across a bunch of gospel/shout guys recently and realized this is a blind-spot for me. So much odd phrasing and scale choices

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keep in mind just like rock, blue and jazz... Gospel bass has a LONG history with a variety of stylist points to learn.

here are some specifics from my 1st experience:

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Mar 19, 2014

Sounds to me like you are having issues with the chords, runs, etc and not the rhythm? If so, keep in mind that most gospel songs are very simple repeating patterns (chord progressions). The difference is that the bass rarely plays the root. That is why the chords sound so different in that at any particular time you may be playing the 3rd, 6th, flat 5th, flat 6th, etc.
So the progression may be actually only a few different chord intervals, but because the bass it playing many different chord tones it sounds like a lot more. For example, check out Micah Stampley: “Worthy to be...

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[BargeOn]

So putting the devil's chord in a gospel song goes without comment. That's progress.

 

[getBAK]

I supposed it's like taking back the N-Word...

 

[Bob_Ross]

I hate most things related to organized religion.

LOL. We can hang.