Originally posted by Whappo Grande
What a beautiful cabinet that is! What is it?
Hey Mark...we are building a new church with new sound system..how about a demo unit?? Love that thing!
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Church Rig
- Thread starter Joe Smithberger
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Hey Mark...we are building a new church with new sound system..how about a demo unit?? Love that thing!
I really didn't notice any difference after I put the castors on. They unlock and slide off if I feel so inclined anyway. GREAT CASTORS. I have yet to have any trouble rolling it through doorways or over mic cables etc.
pbd
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those poor cables!!!!
Well I have had a chance to wring out the Fishman Platinum Pro/EQ and try the Avatar CB112 in my situation. Without a doubt, the Fishman DI is a keeper. The EQ section is great and the box is worth it for just that alone. I have always had trouble keeping a full sound in a boomy room and this is as close as I've come yet. The depth control acts as an additional notch filter (I think) and rolls off the boom in a nice, subtle, way. The bottom end is then tuned with the bass and low-mid EQ sliders. I have heard several reviewers describe this as a musical device and that nails it.
The Avatar CB112 didn't do much for me. If I didn't have a 2x10, I would probably just keep it and be happy. If I was rockin out or slappin all the time I would be happy. However, It doesn't quite do it with my fretless. I guess I am a 10 inch speaker fan. The sound just never seemed as articulate and punchy with the 112 and together with my other cabinet, the sound just got blurry. Much bigger, but not as well defined. It's a bummer because it is a nicely built cabinet and those low D and Db's sounded better than with my 210. Maybe if I had a bit more power available it would open up.
It looks like the setup is going to be 2x10 standing alone with the Fishman to tweek the tone and/or to send out to the house PA. Now maybe a better 2x10...
The Avatar CB112 didn't do much for me. If I didn't have a 2x10, I would probably just keep it and be happy. If I was rockin out or slappin all the time I would be happy. However, It doesn't quite do it with my fretless. I guess I am a 10 inch speaker fan. The sound just never seemed as articulate and punchy with the 112 and together with my other cabinet, the sound just got blurry. Much bigger, but not as well defined. It's a bummer because it is a nicely built cabinet and those low D and Db's sounded better than with my 210. Maybe if I had a bit more power available it would open up.
It looks like the setup is going to be 2x10 standing alone with the Fishman to tweek the tone and/or to send out to the house PA. Now maybe a better 2x10...
I have added a low amp stand (12 inches) to the setup and it seems to help quite a bit. This aims the cab more at my ears. The low end that I have lost can be tweeked back in a bit with the Fishman EQ box, but with more control than I had otherwise. Looks like this one's a keeper too.
This is a good thread, I hope you don't mind the bump.
This is a good thread, I hope you don't mind the bump.
The funny thing is, everything you have is just what I did on the road to where I am now. Fishman, Amp stand, everything.
Just so you know, I chucked it all in favor of a great direct box and a headphone amp. I am so much happier now.
I can control the blend between me and the monitor signal, which also gets sent into the headphone amp. It's great.
i play at our student ministry on sunday mornings and sometimes on wednesday nights. im in the highschool band. we have a pretty large building. we have around 150 - 200 senior high students every sunday morning and around the same amount of middle schoolers every wednesday night. i go direnctly into the system. one main reason being that i havent had too much of a rig up to now. my new peavey t-max head is scheduled for delivery on monday and ill be getting my new avatar b210 in time for our winter student ministry retreat "summit. after i have my new rig together i will probably use it because then i will know they hear me. one of the sound guys whos there on sunday morning eq's me great and another one screws everything up on wednesday nights. so, i guess i dont have much input to this thread...i just control most of my eq from my bass. (i have a newer bass since the photo has been taken.)
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TuBass, I am hearing what you are saying and have taken steps that way myself (Fishman Pro/EQ, Shure E2's, and a Behringer 5 channel mixer). However, I haven't tried it at church yet. The drummer (acoustic drums) likes having my amp behind him. If I have to bring an amp, I really would rather skip the headphones. The rest of our ensemble relies on floor wedges. What I don't know is if the rest of the group would get enough bass in the monitors, if I turned off my amp, to keep the groove together. Obviously they don't need to hear me as loud as I do.
Do you use closed headphones or earbuds? Does the rest of the group use 'phones or floor wedges?
Do you use closed headphones or earbuds? Does the rest of the group use 'phones or floor wedges?
i use a swr wm 12.. 100 watt..
i use a sansamp bdii into the effects return
bypassing the swr preamp...
our church meets in a school auditorium which is about 60 feet square with 20 feet ceiling...
i am about 3/4 power for the loudest...
we have two electric acoustic guitars and two singers in the pa...me and the keyboard use our own gear...
it is usually quite well balanced with me always a bit on the loud side sometimes
the hard bit is getting the volume down.. and staying down for correct dynamic playing..
we dont have a desk or a sound man at this church..we did at the last place and i use a peavy tko 65 watt there and cranked it a lot
that was a 1000 seater old methodist church with a high ceiling and lots of wood and carpets...
i use a sansamp bdii into the effects return
bypassing the swr preamp...
our church meets in a school auditorium which is about 60 feet square with 20 feet ceiling...
i am about 3/4 power for the loudest...
we have two electric acoustic guitars and two singers in the pa...me and the keyboard use our own gear...
it is usually quite well balanced with me always a bit on the loud side sometimes
the hard bit is getting the volume down.. and staying down for correct dynamic playing..
we dont have a desk or a sound man at this church..we did at the last place and i use a peavy tko 65 watt there and cranked it a lot
that was a 1000 seater old methodist church with a high ceiling and lots of wood and carpets...
That's so funny! I used a small behringer UB502 as a headphone amp for while too, and then later changed to the Behringer headphone amp for multiple outputs.
The headphone don't work great unless the drummer wears them too. our drummer uses Roland v-drums, so we both get a modified monitor mix sent to the headphones, and get to indeprndently blend it with as much or little or our own sound
that we want.
I wear Yamaha closed headphones with a built in microphone so I can talk to the booth if need be. They can also talk back to us through our headphones without it going throught the main monitors.
It's a pretty cool system. I diagrammed and planned it all out myself, and it works like a charm.
