Maybe a PC based amp would work but, what do I know and who knows what the future will bring?
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Class D Amps with Plugins...
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Maybe a PC based amp would work but, what do I know and who knows what the future will bring?
Not to drag this thread off track but can anyone here brief us on difference between Plugins and IRs?
I've been using an IR pedal recently ...
I've been using an IR pedal recently ...
This: MOD Audio website – Express your sonic voice
Mod devices work like an HX Stomp, but it's based on an open platform, it works with plugins
But I'm not sure if there really succeeded?
Edit: sorry, I verified your initial post - there's no class D amp in Mod devices, so you would have to plug it in a power amp
Mod devices work like an HX Stomp, but it's based on an open platform, it works with plugins
But I'm not sure if there really succeeded?
Edit: sorry, I verified your initial post - there's no class D amp in Mod devices, so you would have to plug it in a power amp
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That's merely the latest generation of Fender's module-based tone shaping amps. Before Fender Tone was [This invalid link has been removed], which unfortunately was based on Microsoft's Silverlight environment. There are thousands of perfectly fine amplifiers with what amounts to complete multieffects functionality built into them that can't be easily accessed with modern computers because they require software that was discontinued years ago that was built on a platform that was also discontinued years ago.
It will be nice if Fender Tone doesn't go the same way, but it probably will. At least the current generation of amps have a sufficiently sophisticated UI built into the cabinet that you can more or less access all the functionality without needing an external device.
What about this - Positive Grid Bias Mini 300-watt Bass Head
Personally, I've settled on Cali76 - Noble DI. Fairly simple and compact. Never needs a reboot.
Personally, I've settled on Cali76 - Noble DI. Fairly simple and compact. Never needs a reboot.
Based on my experiences with other users, in the studio and on gigs, those manufacturers would also need to spend significant resources on user technical help lines….
Per usual, I'm swimming upstream. It seems counter-intuitive to add a lot of complexity, much less complexity that's constantly changing, to replace a handful of knobs and switches.
If it was up to me, I'd have a two-knob bass head: A combined gain/output with the Trace under/OK/over lights and a tone knob that's one of those dip-the-middle 'enhance' controls, and that may be one knob too many. Out back I want an XLR out with its own gain, ground flipper, and pre/post tone switch. Couple Speakons, you can call me gone.
For me, simple is elegant, if done right.
If it was up to me, I'd have a two-knob bass head: A combined gain/output with the Trace under/OK/over lights and a tone knob that's one of those dip-the-middle 'enhance' controls, and that may be one knob too many. Out back I want an XLR out with its own gain, ground flipper, and pre/post tone switch. Couple Speakons, you can call me gone.
For me, simple is elegant, if done right.
Oh and I forgot: No tubes, and you can hard-floor in a fixed 30hz LPF. 800w into 4 ohms. If it's got to have a fan, I want a QUIET one, spend the money to put in a good one. Forget a loop, if I want effects, they'll go inline up the input.
No chance I'll EVER see something like that.
No chance I'll EVER see something like that.
Well the Quilter Bass Block 800 is actually pretty close to that, including the quiet fan.
I use it with the 2 EQ knobs at noon most of the time, but I must admit turn them slightly once in a while to compensate for room accoustics. So I would not remove these knobs.
Friend of mine plays master keyboard using only VST instruments on windows laptop for sounds. Works perfectly, even quite intricate pianos have no latency problems. Don't know what's his hosting software though. It would surely work with bass too. This way, you could overcome the moral half-life of any dedicated hard built software host.
Plugins imply an audio architecture for the plugins , well to plug in to. The code base for that my friend is huge and is usually sits on top of monolithic OS like MacOS, Windows or Linux. There are some keyboards Yamaha and Korg for example that run Linux as an OS, embedded OS to host the audio engines and then the modules are basically
What is happening nowadays is an IR loader and also DSP but it is not a plugin architecture. And it is already here. It started a long time ago, Fender and Vox have already done it and the sophisticated ones like Kemper and the like. In the bass amplification world, this is simply not cost effective and what is happening is you are seeing a lot of preamps that can load IRs and DSP to emulate amps, cabinets and effects. But you can't bring in Ampegs SVT Suite plugin directly because #1, not enough CPU horsepower and you would need a display and mouse touch screen to control the VST plugin
Plugins in the strict sense of the word work with DAWs and they can do many things not just emulate amps or outboard gear but play samples of instruments (native Instruments for example). VST is the word that you have to become familiar with Virtual Studio Technology and this was release by Steinberg who created the DAW Cubase. It is possible to have hardware that can load VSTs and usually that is done by the keyboard companies. Roland , Korg etc. The development cost for this is huge
What is happening nowadays is an IR loader and also DSP but it is not a plugin architecture. And it is already here. It started a long time ago, Fender and Vox have already done it and the sophisticated ones like Kemper and the like. In the bass amplification world, this is simply not cost effective and what is happening is you are seeing a lot of preamps that can load IRs and DSP to emulate amps, cabinets and effects. But you can't bring in Ampegs SVT Suite plugin directly because #1, not enough CPU horsepower and you would need a display and mouse touch screen to control the VST plugin
Plugins in the strict sense of the word work with DAWs and they can do many things not just emulate amps or outboard gear but play samples of instruments (native Instruments for example). VST is the word that you have to become familiar with Virtual Studio Technology and this was release by Steinberg who created the DAW Cubase. It is possible to have hardware that can load VSTs and usually that is done by the keyboard companies. Roland , Korg etc. The development cost for this is huge
I have just for kicks used my Apollo UAD and the SVT plugin out to a board + PA for a rehearsal. It was cumbersome and was no better than a NUX MLD BP5 pedal that emulated an Aguilar Tonehammer and an SVT 810 from ShiftLine which they distribute freely. I also needed a MacBook for the Apollo plugin. Honestly the cheap NUX (Cheaper than the cost of the plugin ) was a fine preamp. Did the one thing it was designed for flawlessly. It was also plugged in to the same PA
So because they designed the SVT, they can map the software controls to physical controls of an amp. Korg for example has opened up the Wavestate OS and build and you can remap all the physical controls on the wavestate to something else, since they give the source code for the OS in Github.
For Ampeg, this is possible because of Yamaha who has been running Linux on the Motif keyboards for a while. So not hard to pull the SVT suite VST source code into their new amp. This is exciting. I suspected that Yamaha will do something like this. if they buy Supro or some other tube brand, then they can compete directly with Roland and Fender for guitar amps as well. Fender made a mistake of not positioning emulations as premium because Fender digital amps are in their budget line. Korg which owns Vox made the same mistake with the digital Vox amps.
Offering the SVT suite as a DAW plugin with the right price point was a smart move, because DAW implies pro level
Thanks so much for the education! Now I have to see how I can connect my laptop and DI to an amp...or not
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