Class D Amps with Plugins...

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by SoulReflection, Dec 8, 2022.

  1. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    My home studio with a Scarlett DI going into Reaper and quality plugins is simply amazing. I can see the day when there will be amps capable of importing plugins to create any sound you want. I say "Bring It On"!

    What do you think?
     
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  2. I'd say we're already there.
    Fender Rumble Studio 40 40W 1x10 Bass Combo Amplifier
     
  3. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    I had one and was not impressed with the "plugins". I am hoping there will be amps that are open to vst plugins that, increasingly, are becoming more tube-like and available from a number of sources that can be "tried before you buy". AI has a future here, IMHO.
     
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  4. knumbskull

    knumbskull

    Jul 28, 2007
    UK
    Isn’t that basically what the powered Kemper does?
     
  5. waveman

    waveman

    Sep 25, 2008
    While not technically plugin, Powered Kemper Heads uses IR's that way. Line 6 Native and Helix to a power amp is fairly close to that idea. The thing is between IR's and Plugin's, which is better? IDK

    Take a laptop with class D amp, and you got it basically now, but then companies like Line 6 may want higher premium for stuff like Native to be used directly.
     
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  6. So basically an open architecture system?
    Yeah. I see all the manufacturers giving up their proprietary systems to do that real soon. :rolleyes:
    It certainly makes sense, and I applaud your comments. But the world is littered with great ideas that never caught on due to turf battles.
     
  7. seamonkey

    seamonkey

    Aug 6, 2004
    Take a Laptop, or a Mac Mini, or an iPad and have at it.
    Check out IK Multimedia Tonex - it's getting quite a following.
    TONEX iOS
     
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  8. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    I will have to check that out.
     
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  9. Passinwind

    Passinwind I know nothing. Commercial User

    Dec 3, 2003
    Columbia River Gorge, WA.
    Owner/Designer &Toaster Tech Passinwind Electronics
    I've always had much better results using plugins in post processing than in real time playing. But I’m sure it’s coming. ;)
     
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  10. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    The cost, bulk and fragility of a laptop, plus the possible need for a DI are issues that could be addressed by an amp with all those things built in.
     
  11. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    Yep, so they said about IBM PCs...
     
  12. waveman

    waveman

    Sep 25, 2008
    Well honestly it doesn't even have to be a "Laptop". I could probably piece together something that looked like a nice cohesive amp with a single board computer, DI, and Class D power amp board today :) Now foot-switching would be fun, but probably possible too. Though, you would need a way to control it. That could be done with a small android device or some other remote method.
     
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  13. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    I would avoid Android and make it more mainstream but, you are on track!
     
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  14. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
  15. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    Nope. More stuff to go wrong with an amp. Patch in a multi-effect pedal and be done.
     
  16. drumvsbass

    drumvsbass

    Aug 20, 2011
    Winnipeg
    Helix
     
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  17. MVE

    MVE

    Aug 8, 2010
    The Bergantino B amp and Forte have the architecture to do this, but they do not allow end user to make adjustments.
     
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  18. agedhorse

    agedhorse Supporting Member Commercial User

    Feb 12, 2006
    Davis, CA (USA)
    Development Engineer-Mesa Boogie, Development Engineer-Genzler (pedals), Product Support-Genz Benz
    Every manufacturer that has developed products like this have experienced significant challenges. The cost of supporting this type of product needs to be spread out over enough units to make sense.

    Just keeping systems updated and bug free along with being compatible with ever-changing external control devices and third party software is a missive job, which is why support for older products like this is dropped when it no longer makes economic (or technical resources) sense.
     
  19. SoulReflection

    SoulReflection Supporting Member

    Nov 18, 2017
    NorCal
    I haven't seen much go wrong with a DAW and its plugins but, I can see where this is coming from.
     
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