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Cleaning and reusing strings?

FWIW, I hate the sound of new round wounds, and I hate the sound of dead round wounds. For my preference a new set will hit a sweet spot somewhere around 2 or 3 days after they're on the bass, and are too dull after about 4 weeks. I use denatured alcohol to clean the strings for my round wound bass. I alternate between two sets - one on the bass, one in the alcohol - and then swap about every month. What I really like about it is the strings fresh out of the alcohol do not sound new, they sound like they do at that 2 day sweet spot I mentioned. I'm usually able to swap back and forth 3 or 4 times for each set until physical damage to the strings makes them useless. I don't do it to be a cheapskate, I do it because they sound exactly the way I like after a soaking.
 
Naptha (aka Coleman Camping Fuel) should work too, and might be easier to find than methylated spirits (methyl is more desirable than ethyl for this use I think)... but if you can't get naptha or methyl-based alcohol stick with 99% as the 76% has all sorts of undesirables in it. Walmart, Canadian Tire, etc all usually have Naptha, and it's also safe for wood and most (maybe all?) finishes if you want or need to clean the bass itself too.

EDIT: Handle this stuff with care!! Wear protective glasses and gloves and so on. Whatever you use, I know people who handmade containers to soak in using PVC piping. FYI
 
I'm not a fan of boiling strings, but in a pinch, it works.

I agree with above statements about strings not being reusable after you take them off. What your friend told you is a load of crap. I freely switch out strings, depending on mood or the tone I need. I don't do it often by any means, because it often involves at least a truss rod tweak, but I do make sure to take good care of which ever set I have off at the moment, and I take a lot of care when stringing the bass or pulling the strings off.
 
:eek:

then in your case trying to preserve them seems perfectly logical; in the US a new set of d'addarios or ernie ball 4-string rounds is like $16.

I get the D'Addario nickel plated steel rounds, EXL170s in the 2 pack from Welcome to Bass Strings Online - Your Custom Bass String Shop... and pay about $11.50 a set. I need to grab a 2 pack of their 5 string sets too, got a 5 stringer on the way... Too bad you can't buy just the single B strings. I'd stock up on 4 string sets and grab a couple of B strings, that way I am covered for my 4 and 5 stringers...

To the original posters question though, if your strings were in good shape, perhaps just gummed up with too much dirt from hands or something, removing them, cleaning them and reinstalling them should be no big deal. I pull strings off and on all the time with no ill effect.
 
So, stupid question, but my friend told me that you were never supposed to take the strings off your bass, because they would not be reusable. I took the strings off my bass and have left them to soak in 99% isopropyl alcohol for 24 hours, because they were sounding a bit dim. They are roundwound, not sure what metal they are made of, and have metal tips at the end, as opposed to the colored ones you see on some strings. I was wondering if he was right, in which case I will need new strings. So, are bass strings reusable? Any help is appreciated.
You just have to be careful about how you remove them, and how you strung them in the first place. When I first started saving strings, I could not reuse them because the ends near the tuning pegs would snap since they were bent at an angle. Now I've learned a way to string them in such a way that they are coiled neatly and just pop right out of the top of the pegs when I need to swap strings to a different bass, gut a bass completely, or clean strings. Also wind up a few inches more when first stringing so that you have enough length in the strings to put them back in case they snap near the end.
 
Naptha (aka Coleman Camping Fuel) should work too, and might be easier to find than methylated spirits (methyl is more desirable than ethyl for this use I think)... but if you can't get naptha or methyl-based alcohol stick with 99% as the 76% has all sorts of undesirables in it. Walmart, Canadian Tire, etc all usually have Naptha, and it's also safe for wood and most (maybe all?) finishes if you want or need to clean the bass itself too.

EDIT: Handle this stuff with care!! Wear protective glasses and gloves and so on. Whatever you use, I know people who handmade containers to soak in using PVC piping. FYI
I'll add that this is particularly flammable/explosive and I'd only do it outdoors away from anything I value ;) . I used to just boil in water with some Pine cleaner added, then boil in plain water, then air dry. Worked for me :) . I'm now into flats and dead rounds (and trying different gauges) so haven't had a need for a while.
 
Many years ago, while visiting Gruhn Guitars in Nashville, I got to talking with one of the guys there and he put me on to boiling. That was probably 30+ years ago and it's worked for me. Just ask you wife if it's OK to use her big chili pot BEFORE you fill it up with water, a dash of salt (boils faster) and put the strings in. LOL!!!!!
 
ISOPROPYL is way better than ANY boiling! Don't ever try to boil them in isopropyl, it's flammable! I do however ULTRASONIC clean them in Isoprpopyl alcohol. 99 percent. Isoprop doens't contain that much water. If your strings are pure Stainless Steel there's no problem. If they're Pure Nickel it might. But as you strap them on and tune them up, the moisture will disappear. You can reuse strings. The only strings you CAN NOT reuse are the ones that are made with ROUND CORE. This is mostly certain DR strings, and little great british manufacturer Newtone. The strings and windings will "unravel" or "uncoil" around the strings. But by and large it's a no-brainer. Those strings are quit rare and you know it before you buy them if it is wound like that.

Ultrasonic may be a little overkill, but as I use it for other things as well, it's worth it.

Anything that makes the string hot (boiling) may very well leave the string in that expanded state. I e the gauge of the strings will vary slightly ALONG its length, giving it an uneven gauge, causing it to oscillate badly (just like if it was magnetic strings pull from the pickups magnets on the string) and intonate very poorly. But you get the new string zzzzing alright for a week or two, but it plays out of tune...

This is hex core vs round core, and why gunk piles up in the gap:

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The Isopropanol plus ultrasonic cleaning may get inside these gaps that traps finger gunk and resolve it. Now, boiling strings makes the string expand (just like tuning up) but you can't be dead sure that all finger gunk is shifted, i e that some of these "hex gaps" still contain finger gunk, and thus, makes the gauge of the string uneven along its length. I still wants to find out a way to stretch them out a whole tone up (tune the up) from normal tuning so those "pores" opens up a lot more and leaves these gaps more open for the isoprop or ultrasonic to creep inside more easily. But then you'll risk the strings breaking. But then - when cleaned - tune it down again, to normal tuning. As you might have detected, round cores doesn't collect that much gunk.

6 years: the lifespan I had with ONE SET of Newtone Double Ball end strings Stainless Steel on round core. I isopropped them, and ultrasonic cleaned them TWICE a year. Since it was headless it just take one minute to take them off and on. After 6 years, the frets dents and slow eroding on the zero fret on the strings made them out of tune all the time, regardless of how you intonated them. THEN it was time for a change to brand new strings. I had other basses as well, and this one was deliberately made a - sort of - guinea pig experiment, just to see how long strings really lasted, before I couldn't stand them anymore. Of course, I washed hands and cleaned them after each session or gig with that bass. Say, half of the time, I used this one, half of the time my other basses, and I kept track of it. Bought them in 2007, and in 2013 I had to scrap them. I have 3-4 sets still laying around, not opened since I've bought them.
 
Ok, here in Sweden the Rotosound 045-105 double ball end strings are at 87 USD (!), four strings stainless steel, hex core. Now, go figure if that one is 5 strings, and coated, or flatwounds! Any good Ultrasonic cleaner can be bought for below that. Thomann in Germany is a lot cheaper but then you have to add 17 USD shipping no matter how little you buy.

Saving on bass strings, and being a cheapskate on them might do wonders down the road. On guitar strings, it's futile though.

Remember, not everyone lives in the states, next door to Ernie Ball! Tips and tricks on cleaning and increase their longevity is good information around here for most people.
 
@walterw
To the OP, not worth it. Strings aren't that expensive and ...

For you not, perhaps, but the rest of Oz? Or Scandinavia? I find it particularly narrowminded that people at TB takes for granted that everyone lives next door to Ernie Ball or D'addario. Or have sponsorship, were you get them for free. Try to buy a set of flatwounds for upright bass, see what prices you get. Everyone doesn't have boutique basses, and remember the following pic which you have to be reminded of all of the time:

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I don't think strings are that expensive too. That's for me. I have a day job. Just as well, I think still it aint worth it when I have to cough up 87 USD for a DECENT quality set here in Sweden. It all boils down to (huh, pardon the pun) the restrictions of steel import duties. Say, I've always seen US steel, British steel strings, and or SWEDISH STEEL inside any string package. Never seen or heard of any Asian made steel string sets. I e of Asian steel.

Remember the IMPACT you do to the environment when you discard the steel strings. Each time you put on a new set, you have to discard the old ones. No matter if it's in the right recycle bin. Then the enviromentalists comes with "HEY YOU USE ISOPROPANOL! THATS HAZARDOUS TOO!" but as it is, THAT ONE can be re-used too, because that liquid is quite expensive, and you don't have to pour it out in the kitchen sink after each use. THAT would cost a fortune though.
 
I will boil my strings in plain ol' water for approx 5-10 minutes, take 'em out and set 'em outside on a piece of cardboard then spray them with CRC Brakleen Brake cleaning spray, which is almost all Acetone (fingernail polish remover). The acetone will absorb any moisture from boiling and evaporate within seconds. Acetone leaves no residue, either. Also, if you immediately remove the strings from boiling water, the heat will speed up the evaporation process (and you can opt-out of using acetone, I suppose). I agree with other posts saying the string sound is real close to freshly broken-in strings. Never experienced breakage, but I know it will happen sooner-or-later.
 
And speaking of cheap strings. I've tried Ernie Balls, to no end. Great sound, but after 3 days they're dead as a doornail, sounding almost flatwound. Those are the most "famous" ones I've tried which dies the fastest. Maybe the "factory second" sets are shipped overseas? :wideyed: