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Cliff Burton Hype

#202
Fade to Black

Awesome bass... sadly you cant hear it very well on the CD version. Download Powertab editor and learn it from there. When you know it, its easier to pick out on the CD

(havnt read more than 3 psts of this, but am posting this anyway)
 
#203
Most metal fans who can't grasp why Cliff Burton was great haven't considered:

A) That he significantly steered away from the mainstream bass playing styles of metal at the time.
B) That he played a crucial role in crafting Metallica's greatest albums.
C) That he kicked ass live. Listen to a few live recordings... and you can easily hear how much better he sounds and plays live (on the albums, his basslines tend to be drowned out...).

If "Anesthesia (Pulling Teeth)" and "For Whom The Bell Tolls" were the only songs that made him great, he wouldn't be as famous or inspiring. It's a shame that they buried his basslines when recording, even up to the moment that he himself was buried...

I'm not arguing that he was the best - I have other bassists I admire more. But when you take the time to hear him in action on those live recordings, or really consider his impact on the band, it brings you to a new level of appreciation for him.
 
#204
With Cliff, three of the best metal albums ever.

Without him, one really good album, one perfectly okay one, and a load of BS. Newstead left when they hired a psychiatrist. Cliff would have probably just murdered them.
 
#205
He used to listen classical music and influenced by it A LOT. In Bass Player magazine there is an issue dedicated to his playing and the influence he shows in them, I didnt knew it either and I was blown away to see why he actually put those notes there and it was definitely no random solo playing.
Some of the best riffs out of Master of Puppets (probably the best metal album EVER) are his babies. His little solos on the first 2 albums was just 10% of what he did on live shows anw! He knew theory and practiced many many hours everyday... Kirk Hammet said that Cliff was on his way to become a great guitar player also in his last couple of years. And the most important thing: before him you couldnt hear bass in metal bands, he was probably the first one who came in front and also had credits for his riffs in the recordings.
Obviously he was not an ordinary bass player and for his time it was a pioneer, a revolution, evolution and what he did by his age of 24 (YEAH he was that young when he died) most people dont achieve 5% of it in a life time. R.I.P.
Sure he was not the best bassist of all time, but for the metal world he was kinda the one that started all!

Respect.
 
#212
Darkstrike said:
Harris was around a long time before Cliff.
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Yep - he started Iron Maiden in 1975.

And if you don't think Iron Maiden was very progressive for its time... compare them to Judas Priest. I like Judas Priest, but the differences are HUGE.

Now, in a classical/progressive sense, Burton deserves credit for being one of the first to bring that into metal. But for progressive as a whole... it's another story. :D
 
#213
I'd like to echo the sentiment about Cliff's live playing: go to Metallica's website for free downloads of live bootleg stuff. Cliff came through live in a way that was sadly lacking on the studio albums. It's sad that he was buried in the mix on those. I'd love to hear a remix of ALL Metallica's stuff with the bass right out there to be heard.
 
#215
SKATE RAT said:
how so? only the first 2 Suicidal albums are any good,only the first 3 Ozzy records are any good and only the first 3 Metallica records are any good.the rest is just blah.
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Lights...Camera...Revolution is by far the coolest ST album and Trujillo was a founding member of Infectious Grooves which was way better than either Suicidal Tendencies or new Metallica IMO.

However, since my opinion of a band's relative worth is just as subjective as yours, feel free to keep thinking what you want.
 
#217
MysticBoo said:
Yep - he started Iron Maiden in 1975.

And if you don't think Iron Maiden was very progressive for its time... compare them to Judas Priest. I like Judas Priest, but the differences are HUGE.
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As u said the difference is HUGE. Especially at that time not many bands sounded alike (like now-days). Now about Harris playing, (and I m finishing this here cause its off topic anw), there are are some bands older than Maiden that sound exactly like Maiden. Harris was not a pioneer of his playing. Cliff was.

MyUsernameHere said:
Lights...Camera...Revolution is by far the coolest ST album and Trujillo was a founding member of Infectious Grooves which was way better than either Suicidal Tendencies or new Metallica IMO.

However, since my opinion of a band's relative worth is just as subjective as yours, feel free to keep thinking what you want.
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+2

Last night I was hearing "Lights... Camera... Revolution" btw hehe...
 
#218
Low D. said:
As u said the difference is HUGE. Especially at that time not many bands sounded alike (like now-days). Now about Harris playing, (and I m finishing this here cause its off topic anw), there are are some bands older than Maiden that sound exactly like Maiden. Harris was not a pioneer of his playing. Cliff was.
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PM me some of the names of those bands. I'd love to listen to them.

I've been digging through a wide variety of old bands from the 1970s and 1980s. Always looking forward to the next big find for my music collection! :)
 

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