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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 12!!!)

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#761
Chef said:
1) If you repeatedly could hear and correctly identify the diff b/t a one piece and a two piece bodied bass in a blindfolded, back to back test, and,
2) could accurately describe to me an audible difference that several other listeners could also identify and agree upon when pointed out, then;
3) I'd buy you a case of whatever is your preferred adult beverage;)
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If I could hear the difference I would work at NASA but I still feel very confident there is one...I'll still take that beer if your offering...:D
tombowlus said:
And then there's the whole "wood versus glue" thing. My guess is that anytime you add more glue to the equation, there is a potential for some tonal change. But in the case of a two-piece body, this effect should be pretty minimal, and I would think that from a practical perspective, there would not be much perceptible tonal difference between a one-piece and a two-piece body as a result of that one glue line.

I would also add that some luthiers intentionally choose different woods, or different density of the same wood, for the "bass" and the "treble" side of the instrument.
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I agree about the glue comment and the fact that glue has no positive tonal properties whatsoever...
IMO different woods, or different density of the same wood, for the "bass" and the "treble" side of the instrument is way over the edge...:rolleyes:
 
#762
jonno1707 said:
I dont think its about the grain being uniform or not but more so if the two pieces are from the same part of the same exact tree as to hopefully yield and almost exact and duplicate vibrational response.
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Yeah, I should probably clarify, along the lines of what others have posted, I'm speaking practically, not scientifically.

I'm only talking about what you could potentially actually humanly discern in a practical, realistic environment. I still strongly maintain, for all practical purposes, there's no appreciable tonal difference between a one piece body and a two piece body made from comparable wood blanks.
 
#763
oh its not that bad.....
still sounds the same! plays the same...its broken in.......;)
we charge more for that...:D
it doesnt have and pieces of wood missing.....or body repairs...:eek::D

i guess i could blame my road teck for most little dings.. but thats what happens when on tour ... if my basses sat at home on a stand for me to stare at, it would look perfect... but they get around the globe... never been to africa though:)



Chef said:
Well, my nitro is cashed but that's mostly cause Kirk whipped it like a rented mule before I got it.
Mine's in a protec contego, which seems to work pretty well.
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#764
Vic said:
Yeah, I should probably clarify, along the lines of what others have posted, I'm speaking practically, not scientifically.

I'm only talking about what you could potentially actually humanly discern in a practical, realistic environment. I still strongly maintain, for all practical purposes, there's no appreciable tonal difference between a one piece body and a two piece body made from comparable wood blanks.
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This topic always reminds me of the time as a teenager when I first realized my shiny new bass sounded great but had a 3 piece body. Boy did that cause some teenage angst. Then as a grownup I bought a hippie-sandwich made from 587 pieces of wood and felt like the man!:eyebrow:

To put it all in perspective: who remembers reading the narrative from a couple years ago about all the big dawgs who got together at Will Lee's apartment to play the newly rediscovered Jaco Bass of Doom? That thing was broken into splinters, glued back together and reinforced at key weak points, and still sounded like the Bass of Doom.

I don't think we can definitively say glue sounds bad until someone builds some basses out of glue to compare with some wooden basses. Moreover, a good player (e.g. Uncle Will) could probably make the aforementioned "bad" sounding gluebass sound as good as my Alleva-Coppolo. Well maybe not that good...;)
 
#767
Maybe this will help ?: ( from the internet)

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Alleva Coppolo EUT 5 string
Specs:
-Primavera body wood
-Maple/Maple neck
-Coppolo pickups/preamp (w/ passive tone)
-Hipshot hardware (lollipop ultralites!)
-34" scale/19mm spacing
-Ice-Blue Metallic finish (nitrocellulose
 
#768
Hey Guys,
I went to the shop last night just to visit Jimmy... Played an LM5 Deluxe and LG5 Classic that are on their way to Korea.
Jimmy recently changed the spec on the pickups slightly... To me they sound more aggressive and fatter. Didn't really spend too much time playing as I was in the back hangin' out and watching some Coppolo magic.

Attached is a quick pic of the 2 basses... The black LG5 has a tort pickguard but I put a white one on top to get a visual of my LM5 (+ blocks/binding). The Rosewood on this one is so dark and rich looking that I thought it was DN, but it was the regular Indian - just stunning. Eventhough I'm more of an LM kinda guy, I preferred the LG last night... The satin neck and it's shape was wonderful.

And to the guys with new orders or anyone thinking of new orders... I know the wait time has increased but don't be discouraged, Jimmy is working his butt off in there... The man looks tired. Kinda felt bad for him, but you can tell he loves every minute he's back there building.

Rock on Jimmy! :bassist:
 

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#771
Im thinking mine should be coming soon..

YCBass said:
Hey Guys,
I went to the shop last night just to visit Jimmy... Played an LM5 Deluxe and LG5 Classic that are on their way to Korea.
Jimmy recently changed the spec on the pickups slightly... To me they sound more aggressive and fatter. Didn't really spend too much time playing as I was in the back hangin' out and watching some Coppolo magic.

Attached is a quick pic of the 2 basses... The black LG5 has a tort pickguard but I put a white one on top to get a visual of my LM5 (+ blocks/binding). The Rosewood on this one is so dark and rich looking that I thought it was DN, but it was the regular Indian - just stunning. Eventhough I'm more of an LM kinda guy, I preferred the LG last night... The satin neck and it's shape was wonderful.

And to the guys with new orders or anyone thinking of new orders... I know the wait time has increased but don't be discouraged, Jimmy is working his butt off in there... The man looks tired. Kinda felt bad for him, but you can tell he loves every minute he's back there building.

Rock on Jimmy! :bassist:
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#773
Loving everything about this bass. The slightly thicker neck profile back by the nut just feels perfect. It's not a light weight 10.75lbs but is managable on long gigs, while I can't quantify it that weight seems to translate into the feel and tone.

It's very picky in allowing me great tone, when I play it the right way the bass sings and seems to be an extension of what I expect to hear. If I get sloppy she doesn't hesitate in telling me so with buzzy notes and a weak tone. It's bringing out the best and worst in my playing.

I've thought long and hard about it and am going to make the bold move to have this as my one and only electric bass.:eek:

It was totally worth the cost and 1 year wait:bassist:

*Please don't PM me about my LG5 as it is spoken for. If that changes I will be sure to let everyone know.

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#776
peterpalmieri said:
Loving everything about this bass. The slightly thicker neck profile back by the nut just feels perfect. It's not a light weight 10.75lbs but is managable on long gigs, while I can't quantify it that weight seems to translate into the feel and tone.

It's very picky in allowing me great tone, when I play it the right way the bass sings and seems to be an extension of what I expect to hear. If I get sloppy she doesn't hesitate in telling me so with buzzy notes and a weak tone. It's bringing out the best and worst in my playing.

I've thought long and hard about it and am going to make the bold move to have this as my one and only electric bass.:eek:

It was totally worth the cost and 1 year wait:bassist:

*Please don't PM me about my LG5 as it is spoken for. If that changes I will be sure to let everyone know.

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If anyone is looking for an LG5 mine is still available in the classified section. It is an amazing bass but the 19mm spacing is tough for me... Check it out.....
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9268226&highlight=alleva+coppolo#post9268226
 
#778
lullbass said:
If anyone is looking for an LG5 mine is still available in the classified section. It is an amazing bass but the 19mm spacing is tough for me... Check it out.....
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?p=9268226&highlight=alleva+coppolo#post9268226
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$3700 is a great price and it's a beautiful bass. From what I understand an LG5 shot in nitro is going to cost $4500 these days with a 12-18 month wait...I'm not sure if it's the pics but that's a nice dark Idian rosewood board. Jimmy knows how to pick them...:bassist:
 
#779
The EUT5 I asked about in a post above IS the same one in the advrt in the OZBASS forums... yeah a funny ad- now that I re-read it. :-)

But from ALL the things I read on these AC threads- sounds like this EUT5-( which Jimmy DID reply to an email I sent him re. SAid it was a good one. ) It sounds to me like these AC's are just what I'm after- a vintage sounding 5 string, 34", with the ability to give a modern vibe if so desired.
Thats the general vibe I get from most posters on this thread. Am I right here?
 
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rodl2005 said:
The EUT5 I asked about in a post above IS the same one in the advrt in the OZBASS forums... yeah a funny ad- now that I re-read it. :-)

But from ALL the things I read on these AC threads- sounds like this EUT5-( which Jimmy DID reply to an email I sent him re. SAid it was a good one. ) It sounds to me like these AC's are just what I'm after- a vintage sounding 5 string, 34", with the ability to give a modern vibe if so desired.
Thats the general vibe I get from most posters on this thread. Am I right here?
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YES:bassist:
 
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