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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 12!!!)

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#883
We cut the body in January this year.. he has a wait period. I really ordered it last fall.. but have been slow at deciding what i really want.. Ive been using my P5 alot and just sent that one in for a refret.
But Sonic Blue is my final on the LG5.. blocks too...
Im guessing maybe 6 weeks or so... im in no hurry .. I find the older i get the more patience i get... Im old!:):):)

Bernie Connors said:
Nice! I love Sonic Blue. Add in DN with blocks and binding? Wow.. That'll be one heck of a bass.

When do you expect it?
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#884
svtb15 said:
I sent my kbp5 Dalbergia Neck to jimmy for a refret... I have a tour coming up and want to move to different size frets.. Here is my neck on the bench after re-truing, frets just pressed in....
Ive been using mandolin frets for years and years but going to a slightly wider fret on the P5 for now...
Just wanted to share it with you guys and girls.


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Kirk,

what are you expecting from this change? just curious.
 
#885
Fran Diaz said:
Kirk,

what are you expecting from this change? just curious.
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I'm not speaking for Kirk of course, and also want to hear his opinion, but I'm going to guess he wants a bit more of a brighter edge on the tone by putting more metal between the fingerboard wood and the string at the fretted note.

I just spec'd a bass with larger frets than is standard, and that's what the net result seemed to be for me (and was what I was hoping for, as well, so I'm very happy with it). Interestingly, the other bass I'm talking about also used smaller than usual frets as standard. I can't remember if it was banjo or mandolin tho.
 
#886
Vic said:
I'm not speaking for Kirk of course, and also want to hear his opinion, but I'm going to guess he wants a bit more of a brighter edge on the tone by putting more metal between the fingerboard wood and the string at the fretted note.

I just spec'd a bass with larger frets than is standard, and that's what the net result seemed to be for me (and was what I was hoping for, as well, so I'm very happy with it). Interestingly, the other bass I'm talking about also used smaller than usual frets as standard. I can't remember if it was banjo or mandolin tho.
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Interesting! Do you notice any playability difference when going to larger frets?
 
#887
vision said:
Interesting! Do you notice any playability difference when going to larger frets?
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Nope.

I would suppose that, if you tend to fret really hard, you might notice a touch more movement in fretting with the slight increase in distance to the board, but I don't push the strings down that hard, so it was a non-issue to me. Other than that, I can't really imagine what else might be felt differently.
 
#891
Im not really expecting anything.. Just experimenting with feel ... Been using mandolin size wire for years. .The intonation with that small wire is incredible and has great note point.. I just wanted to try a change to see.. I can always go back if i wanted to.. that's all.. no other reason..





Fran Diaz said:
Kirk,

what are you expecting from this change? just curious.
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#892
The wire that jimmy just installed in that photo is only slightly wider than the mandolin wire... but a girl that i date is a vintage guitar collector in her free time.... she has tens of 50s and 60s les pauls and strats..
I sent her the picture of the fretwork and she said wow what skinny frets... holy cow thats a girl you want to keep.. she is cute too..



Fran Diaz said:
Kirk,

what are you expecting from this change? just curious.
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#893
The only thing i noticed in fret size was in 2010 NAMM Jimmy really went the Full Monty by putting the wide frets in th e70s style basses .. just like those 70s Fenders..
If you remember those 70s fenders has wide fretwire.. OK My new one is NOT that wide.. I don't really like it that wide.
The height of the new wire is not any higher than my old mandolin wire.. Dont know if it is brighter or darker. don't really care about that.. Just want to see what it feels like...
Im guessing may be darker since there is more contact area to transfer sound to the wood better.. I really dont know.. No matter what its gonna sound great..


Andrew Jones said:
Those of you with LG's and LM's ,Do you have different wire on each bass?

I do.


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#894
svtb15 said:
The only thing i noticed in fret size was in 2010 NAMM Jimmy really went the Full Monty by putting the wide frets in th e70s style basses .. just like those 70s Fenders..
If you remember those 70s fenders has wide fretwire.. OK My new one is NOT that wide.. I don't really like it that wide.
The height of the new wire is not any higher than my old mandolin wire.. Dont know if it is brighter or darker. don't really care about that.. Just want to see what it feels like...
Im guessing may be darker since there is more contact area to transfer sound to the wood better.. I really dont know.. No matter what its gonna sound great..
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Hey, funny you should mention the 70's thing. The bass I'm talking about was a full 70's spec, including the one piece neck, 34" scale, true 70's spacing, and period correct single-coil pickups. Ironically, that company typically uses skinny fret wire by default, but I wanted to "complete" the period correct thing, so I opted for the wider wire. I really feel it actually brightens up the tone, which is what I wanted. In fact, at the source, one of the employees played my bass before it shipped, and a similarly configured one with their standard fret wire, and felt the same way. On thing tho... these were both maple boards. I don't know if the fact that you have a DN board matters... I wouldn't think so, just an overall relative shift, but the same effect. Still, noting a diff.

Anyway, the proof is in the puddin' so let us know what you think. :)
 
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I just got this pic from Jimmy... To all of you who wonder if he will do a matching headstock on a maple board here is your answer. It seems like it's gone around that he won't, it's not that he won't but it's a personal taste and he's just not crazy about how it looks in most cases... I think this one's hot... LM5 in Mustard w/ matching headstock on it's way to a dealer in Korea.... And guess who's gonna stop by the shop to give her a run before her flight.... :D

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YCBass said:
...To all of you who wonder if he will do a matching headstock on a maple board here is your answer. It seems like it's gone around that he won't, it's not that he won't but it's a personal taste and he's just not crazy about how it looks in most cases...
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As long as it doesn't mean he'll refuse to do it, or overcharge to discourage, that's fine. At the end of the day, when it comes to visual taste options like this, only the customer's opinion should matter.
 
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Vic said:
As long as it doesn't mean he'll refuse to do it, or overcharge to discourage, that's fine. At the end of the day, when it comes to visual taste options like this, only the customer's opinion should matter.
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That's exactly why I wanted to post this... I've read some posts that suggested he refuses to do it, but I think it's more of how people take it if he happens to say he didn't like it. He doesn't overcharge or even charge extra than he would a rosewood board as far as I know. And I think it's ok for him to discourage just like a builder would suggest a different spec (wood, electronics, etc.) that they think would be better.
 
#899
YCBass said:
To all of you who wonder if he will do a matching headstock on a maple board here is your answer. It seems like it's gone around that he won't, it's not that he won't but it's a personal taste and he's just not crazy about how it looks in most cases...
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I concur. When I was ordering my LM5 we talked about matching headstocks and he said he would do it if I wanted. However, I ended up ordering Firemist Gold, which I thought look better without MHS.
 
#900
Just got this Link from Paul Turner and wanted to share it with you all.
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Its his new Alleva Coppolo LG5 with binding and different fingerboard wood.

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Paul said it was cold outside and damp which made the strings feel like glue... No matter he still played his tail off IMO..




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