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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 12!!!)

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#841
narud said:
id agree with cutting your losses if the bass didnt sound like what you expect or want acoustically. that experience i had with the 75ri really taught me alot. and prior to that, i thought i had it figured out.:hiding:

the thing sounded bright and snappy acoustically, but EVERY set of pickups i put in there sounded super grindy and not like my 78. i knew from the acoustic sound that it had to be in the guts. it took buying a set of 70 jazz pickups and putting them in that bass to figure it out.
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+1 It is easy to think about all the parts of an instrument as 'linearly related'. However, EVERYTHING in an instrument is non-linear, meaning that components differentially interact with one another based on the character of each component. And I'm not talking about two way interactions (you can tell I'm a statistician during the day), but three, four, and even higher way interactions that make exact predictions of tone based on spec kind of like predicting the weather.

It can make you crazy. I've solved that by only purchasing 'completed' instruments, and either returning or selling the ones that don't totally speak to me both acoustically and 'electronically' after minor tweaks. It took me a while, but now have been playing the same primary bass coming up on 4 years (and I've yet to find an amp that it doesn't sound at least decent with), and have zero GAS for anything else. However, it took a bit of cash and time to get there.
 
#842
well, considering peter ordered this bass, if you sell, youre looking at losing your ass. trying out a set of pickups could be the answer. sometimes the simplest stuff will make something perfect. look at the neck pickup height of your old vf5. you came out swingin' before you actually took my advice:D

and fwiw, andy (emjazz) is on his 3rd set of pickups on his ristola. sometimes you just gotta try it.
 
#843
peterpalmieri said:
I'm very happy with the bass but since the LG5 is still in my basement, I can't help but A/B them regularly and wonder if getting rid of it is the best idea. In any case I still plan to...
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FWIW, I still feel like that'd be a huge mistake for you, but time will tell. If you do end up selling it, I then very sincerely hope I'm wrong. :)
 
#844
KJung said:
No shame in spec'ing something out that didn't completely work.............................................................................Anyway, I'm sure your bass is awesome, but man, if it doesn't speak to you, cut your losses and try something else........................................................................... No shame in that!
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I don't know that I've concluded that it didn't work out or that it's awesome either.:D:bawl:

Unfortunately with the baby I'm not doing the amount of gigging I once did so real world tests are not as common as they once were. I've actually had some very good experiences at gigs and rehearsals with the bass. It's the time at home that has me striving for that little bit that "may" be missing.

I'm still not jumping to conclusions the 4db boost of 500hz seems to be perfect, that Will Lee switch would be real handy:eyebrow:
 
#845
narud said:
well, considering peter ordered this bass, if you sell, youre looking at losing your ass. trying out a set of pickups could be the answer. sometimes the simplest stuff will make something perfect. look at the neck pickup height of your old vf5. you came out swingin' before you actually took my advice:D

and fwiw, andy (emjazz) is on his 3rd set of pickups on his ristola. sometimes you just gotta try it.
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For the record I have not yet touched the pickup height and it came set up by Jimmy significantly different then how I have my LG5 set currently, i'll get to that soon enough.
 
#847
For the record and in response to a number of PMs I've received.

I LOVE my LM5 and I'm not selling it, I haven't decided if this is the bass I want to play for the rest of my life but I am a big believer in owning ONE bass and playing the heck out of it.

For those that are curious the LM5 with all the bells and whistles was $4500 I don't know if Jimmy has raised his prices since I ordered mine.
 
#848
peterpalmieri said:
For the record and in response to a number of PMs I've received.

I LOVE my LM5 and I'm not selling it, I haven't decided if this is the bass I want to play for the rest of my life but I am a big believer in owning ONE bass and playing the heck out of it.
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Ok, I was confused. I thought you'd already decided the LM was gonna' be "the one" moving forward and you were debating selling the LG.

I hear you on your policy, and I certainly respect it, but man, they're such different beasts, I'd just think it'd be really cool if you could just have one 70's and one 60's bass and be done.

...and that's all you need... and this remote... and that's all you need!... and this lamp... ;) :D
 
#849
This is off topic, but have any of you ordered Jimmy's strings from the A-C website? I just went on there to place an order for a 5 string SS set but the shipping came out to over $13 which seems strangely high...is that normal?
 
#850
I hear you on the bells and whistles thing Pete and Joe... Even Jimmy himself said that if you're a player you don't "need" the blocks/binding, not that I've read/heard anyone here claim they need it.

My LM5 is coming up on the build list and I am at the point of really trying to decide if I will continue with the Deluxe or just make it as plain and simple as possible - Basic. For all intents and purposes I am planning on keeping this bass forever, eventhough I plan to have others along with it, I plan to always have it. Going by that, aesthetics is the one thing you can control and I just don't wanna go Basic or Standard, then kick myself later and say, "I should've gone Deluxe."
 
#851
Vic said:
Ok, I was confused. I thought you'd already decided the LM was gonna' be "the one" moving forward and you were debating selling the LG.

I hear you on your policy, and I certainly respect it, but man, they're such different beasts, I'd just think it'd be really cool if you could just have one 70's and one 60's bass and be done.

...and that's all you need... and this remote... and that's all you need!... and this lamp... ;) :D
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This may seem kind of silly but....

I would rephrase that and say I "hope" the LM is the one and am willing to write off everything else until I decide that it is not. Selling the LG, a great bass, that I don't think does absolutely everything I want it to do is a tough decision and may turn out to be the wrong one. Because it does so many things really well.
 
#852
YCBass said:
I hear you on the bells and whistles thing Pete and Joe... Even Jimmy himself said that if you're a player you don't "need" the blocks/binding, not that I've read/heard anyone here claim they need it.

My LM5 is coming up on the build list and I am at the point of really trying to decide if I will continue with the Deluxe or just make it as plain and simple as possible - Basic. For all intents and purposes I am planning on keeping this bass forever, eventhough I plan to have others along with it, I plan to always have it. Going by that, aesthetics is the one thing you can control and I just don't wanna go Basic or Standard, then kick myself later and say, "I should've gone Deluxe."
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Tough call...
 
#853
YCBass said:
I hear you on the bells and whistles thing Pete and Joe... Even Jimmy himself said that if you're a player you don't "need" the blocks/binding, not that I've read/heard anyone here claim they need it.

My LM5 is coming up on the build list and I am at the point of really trying to decide if I will continue with the Deluxe or just make it as plain and simple as possible - Basic. For all intents and purposes I am planning on keeping this bass forever, eventhough I plan to have others along with it, I plan to always have it. Going by that, aesthetics is the one thing you can control and I just don't wanna go Basic or Standard, then kick myself later and say, "I should've gone Deluxe."
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IMHO, with Jimmy's basses, as beautiful as the fancier models are, it's all about the Standard models.
 
#854
peterpalmieri said:
This may seem kind of silly but....

I would rephrase that and say I "hope" the LM is the one and am willing to write off everything else until I decide that it is not. Selling the LG, a great bass, that I don't think does absolutely everything I want it to do is a tough decision and may turn out to be the wrong one. Because it does so many things really well.
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Nah. Makes perfect sense, but I think most people find it's hard to find one bass that literally does everything that perfect. If you do, tho, you totally "win" the game. :)
 
#856
I confirmed last night that the releif on the neck and the string height is exactly where I want it to be. I started to make some adjustments to the pickup height but by the time I got it to where I wanted it to be my son was asleep, I'll have to give that a test when I get home today and do some additional tweeks.

I'm very glad I played it without making any adjustments for the first month outside of trying low rider SS which I don't think suit the bass as well as the Hi Beams. I may try some different strings if I can figure what makes sense.

Thanks for all the thoughtful comments..
 
#857
A little off topic... Well, kinda.

I got our main man working some Coppolo magic on an MIJ Fender '75 RI Jazz I picked up this week... Working on filing and leveling the frets and slapping on a BA III bridge.
I'm hoping it will feel and play close to an A-C to tide me over til my LM5 is complete and/or I can replace it with an LM4 someday.
 
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