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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 13)

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#302
peterpalmieri said:
Ash or alder?
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It doesn't say. Also doesn't mention the body wood on the website from what I can see. But if it's ash then I think it's a pretty good deal - it's around $1000 cheaper than an LM5 Basic, considering that it's still handmade by Jimmy. You could easily swap out the hardware for the normal stuff and get a pickguard for it. You get an Aguilar pre instead of Jimmy's, but that's still a good preamp and you could swap it out if it didn't work well.
 
#305
YCBass said:
That's part of what makes it budget - you don't get a choice. It's whatever Jimmy has laying around
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So wait, if you order the bass (not one in stock), you don't get to pick ash or alder or whatever? That totally affects tone in a big way, and it's still a $2400 bass. That's not chump change. For in-stock basses, he'd just post what each one was, but for any new orders, he should at least let the customer know what's currently available in the overstock pile and let them choose (or upgrade if they want more specifics).

IMHO!
 
#306
There's actually no point to discussing about the NF5. Jimmy only made 1 to this point so I don't think he'll be doing another... But yes, that would be quite a leap to not know what the woods will be.
 
#307
From MY correspondance with Jimmy prior to grabbing this EUT5, he DEFINATELY implied it was anything BUT a budget type model.

I dunno whether he speaks of ALL his basses so glowingly, but spoke of it as being higher than his average bass in $US.
Can't remember his actual $$ amount he stated, but he had nothing really to gain from 'praising it up' to me. If anything he'd be better off NOT geting me to buy it, as I 'hassled' him with emails & questions :-)
- All of which he replied courteously, promptly & with good info.
I'm currently asking him re a tort guard for my EUT5
 
#308
rodl2005 said:
From MY correspondance with Jimmy prior to grabbing this EUT5, he DEFINATELY implied it was anything BUT a budget type model.

I dunno whether he speaks of ALL his basses so glowingly, but spoke of it as being higher than his average bass in $US.
Can't remember his actual $$ amount he stated, but he had nothing really to gain from 'praising it up' to me. If anything he'd be better off NOT geting me to buy it, as I 'hassled' him with emails & questions :-)
- All of which he replied courteously, promptly & with good info.
I'm currently asking him re a tort guard for my EUT5
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+1 ... I talked to Jimmy yesterday and he did mention that the EUT is more money.
 
#309
Vic said:
On the whole NF, EUT, etc...

IMHO, Jimmy should just have LG, LM, and Custom.

Custom wouldn't necessarily imply Deluxe (expensive), just that it's not a standard 60's or 70's spec bass. I don't understand why he seems to feel the need to start creating unique product names for more and more permutations of configs. I'd personally just keep the "menu" simple, noting the size of his shop.

FWIW.
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vision said:
+1...that would definitely make alot of sense! (Plus the KBP for the P Bass guys.)
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I agree with this. How many times have we seen players new to Alleva Coppolo ask what all the models mean? I think it would streamline things and make it much clearer to potential buyers.

LG, LM, KBP, Custom
 
#313
Bernie Connors said:
IMO, the RA model is basically a mixture of options from the LG or LM series.
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Unfortunately, that is not quite true. The RA is a period correct model based on the early 70's Fender Jazz; 70's pickup spacing, alder body, and maple neck with blocks and binding. Jimmy had both distinct tone and appearance goals in mind for the RA, and it is not simply a mixture of available parts from other models.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, (anticipated groans from the crowd :hiding:), the RA covers a whole lot of tonal ground and if you play a wide range of different styles on gigs there is not a better "Fender style" instrument to be had. I'm consistently baffled by the lack of attention the RA gets. Set up properly, finished in nitro, and with the right set of strings, the RA is totally the shiznit.

End of rant.
 
#314
I think Jimmy should keep the RA model. It's an early 70's model that may not be as popular as the 60's or late 70's Fender Jazz basses but is a nice addition to his line of basses.

We posted at the same time George...but you said it a LOT better than I did!! ;)
Dan

Bernie Connors said:
IMO, the RA model is basically a mixture of options from the LG or LM series. I think it could just be folded into the 'Custom' series and let people spec it out that way if they choose.

LG - Alder/Rosewood
LM - Ash/Maple
KBP - P Spec
Custom - Any of the above options configured as the customer chooses. (within reason)
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#315
Bernie Connors said:
IMO, the RA model is basically a mixture of options from the LG or LM series. I think it could just be folded into the 'Custom' series and let people spec it out that way if they choose.

LG - Alder/Rosewood
LM - Ash/Maple
KBP - P Spec
Custom - Any of the above options configured as the customer chooses. (within reason)
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Correct, except the standard LG would also be 60's spaced and the LM would be 70's (as they currently are). Also, IMHO, the KBP should be an alder body and choice of maple or rosewood boards.

Anything else is basically a custom. The RA is nothing more than a custom based on the LM.
 
#318
IMHO, I think the models are fine the way they are if the website were to be updated with clearer definitions and comparisons of the different trim lines. I actually wrote up something for Jimmy a while back but he doesn't have the time or money to dedicate to the site at the moment. Fortunately he's only a phone call away to any potential buyers or if they were hip to TB then they have this club for info.
 
#319
Vic said:
The RA is nothing more than a custom based on the LM.
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Actually not correct - at least not historically. Wasn't Fender making the alder body with 70's spacing before or at least co-incident with ash bodies with 70's spacing? I believe that many of the 70's position 4 bolt jazz basses were alder. It was later in the 70's that ash/maple was the predominant Fender wood combination on the Jazz bass. That would make the late 70's bass (LM) a spin-off of the early 70's bass (RA), yes?

Further, (and much more relevant) Jimmy designed the RA with a particular player, tone, and period correct appearance in mind. It is not a "parts bass".
 
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