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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 14)

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Is this wood an extra charge on an LG-5 classic?

I would guess a very big yes:smug: That is one heck of a beauty!
 
They are pretty close. but not exact.... The 4 has slightly more mid growl.. Perhaps due to the African RW fingerboard? I love that African RW, even more than the DN stuff..
They are both about the same weight. Pretty light...
The P 5 is slightly more open on top.... and has sizzle.. yet articulate with punch..
I have been playing 5 string basses since 1983... But I like my P4 best over any of my basses.. It just feels like home..


DAMN again Kirk!!! They sound great! That White P with the Maple board looks good to me- that in a 5 maybe???:hyper:
Thanx.

Rod
 
I used the LM5 at a gig last night and I am so pleased with the tone. To the point I am again starting to think about pairing it down to the LM5 being my only bass. It is an original project so we only did one set, but no issues with the 10.75lb, it really was a non issue.

It was my first gig with a drummer using isolation panels, man what a difference...
 
I used the LM5 at a gig last night and I am so pleased with the tone. To the point I am again starting to think about pairing it down to the LM5 being my only bass. It is an original project so we only did one set, but no issues with the 10.75lb, it really was a non issue.

It was my first gig with a drummer using isolation panels, man what a difference...

Yeah I hear you on that one man !

My LM5 Deluxe comes in at exactly 12.40 pounds about 1.65 pounds more than yours and I (personal opinion only) much prefer its overall charcater to 2 recent A-B tests that I had recently done with 2 other AC basses.

They were:

1. RA 5 Ice Blue. Nice light weight and beauty to play and look at. LOUDER overall than my LM. Very rich mids. Nice slap and finger tone of course. BUT the LM had more transparency, character and a tighter more focused Low B string --everyone's opinion on the last point also.

2. LG 5 CAOJ. Again, even a lighter body. Superlative dark and rich finger tone. Louder overall than my LM. Slap tone was great but not the razor sharp-sweet Marcus quality that the LM can impart. It too had a smaller body and access to BOTH frets 20 and 21 were challenging. My colleague who owns this bass agreed that he much preferred my LM5 to his LG5 and he is a professional symphony bassist of a major orchestra, theatre free lance player and enthusiast of the highest order-hence he has seasoned tastes when it comes to matters of the LF.

So, I am on the same page as you Mr. P.P (:D) If I could only have one AC --of the 3 that I have played--it would unequivocally be the LM.

Move over Tom Barney:bassist:

For the RECORD I LOVE the heavy bodies-feel, tone and even their look....Impossible Is Nothing :hyper:
 
My LM5 Deluxe comes in at exactly 12.40 pounds...
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Move over Tom Barney:bassist:
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For the RECORD I LOVE the heavy bodies-feel, tone...
Yep, check back with us in about 10 years. We'll be calling you both Quasimodo. ;) :D :D :D :D

...and even their look...
How does a body "look" heavy? Oh wait, see above. ;) :D :D

JK! :)
 
Yep, check back with us in about 10 years. We'll be calling you both Quasimodo. ;) :D :D :D :D

How does a body "look" heavy? Oh wait, see above. ;) :D :D

JK! :)

I think he's talking about the look of a heavy piece of northern ash.

As you know, been there done that with a 12 pounder. Whew... brutal. They do sound a bit different. Of course, per the review, any LM is going to sound quite different than any LG, so weight isn't an issue there. However, I guess if you like that kind of compression in the low end and the extreme end of that upper mid gank up top that the original late 70's J were known for, it might be the way to go for some.
 
I guess I'd have the same question for you then. I've seen similar grain patterns on both light and heavy ash. :)

Not really sure... the heavy Northerns that I've owned and seen did seem to have a bit of different look (the whole look, not just the grain), but again, doesn't matter to me (that's what paint is for:D)... just interpreting what I think the poster was talking about, since I have experienced the same thing when I think about it.
 
They were:

1. RA 5 Ice Blue. Nice light weight and beauty to play and look at. LOUDER overall than my LM. Very rich mids. Nice slap and finger tone of course. BUT the LM had more transparency, character and a tighter more focused Low B string --everyone's opinion on the last point also.

2. LG 5 CAOJ. Again, even a lighter body. Superlative dark and rich finger tone. Louder overall than my LM. Slap tone was great but not the razor sharp-sweet Marcus quality that the LM can impart. It too had a smaller body and access to BOTH frets 20 and 21 were challenging. My colleague who owns this bass agreed that he much preferred my LM5 to his LG5 and he is a professional symphony bassist of a major orchestra, theatre free lance player and enthusiast of the highest order-hence he has seasoned tastes when it comes to matters of the LF.

Just FYI, my LM, RA, and LG sound TOTALLY different from each other, and that has VERY little to do with weight:).

What you are describing (IMO) are personal preferences of three quite different sounding basses with very different specs (wood, pickup placement, etc.).

That being said, I too prefer my LM tone by far over the RA (which I no longer own) and my LG (which I love for what it is).
 
Not really sure... the heavy Northerns that I've owned and seen did seem to have a bit of different look (the whole look, not just the grain), but again, doesn't matter to me (that's what paint is for:D)... just interpreting what I think the poster was talking about, since I have experienced the same thing when I think about it.
Yeah, and I understood that, but it's also why I kinda' poked a little fun at him. :)

No biggie, just razzin' folks. It's Friday. :)
 
That being said, I too prefer my LM tone by far over the RA (which I no longer own) and my LG (which I love for what it is).

All week I've been starting my afternoon at the shop with about 10 mins or so of playtime - to kinda reset my brain from day job mode to cool job mode. Lucky for me the LM and LG I posted in the last part still haven't left for Japan.

I mentioned before that I've "connected" with more LG's than LM's... But A/Bing then last night proved to me once again why I ordered the LM first.

Like Ken, I love the LG for what it is and am ecstatic that I'm getting one but if I can only have one it's the LM all the way.

With that said, I just want both of them already NOW!!! :bassist:
 
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Yeah, and I understood that, but it's also why I kinda' poked a little fun at him. :)

No biggie, just razzin' folks. It's Friday. :)

You're a comical and feisty O.F.... man !!
NO seriously man; I love it :bawl:

So here goes :)

Yeah I will get back to you in 10 years GOD willing of course-but if a lighter 9 pound Fender Custom Classic and Reggie Hamilton hurt my back after only 20 minutes and the LM after a whole evening doesn't ..well ? My pesos are on the ALLEVA-all the way....:bassist:

10 years it is :D

ON the LOOK HEAVY thing

I had been studying the pictures very carefully on the AC site and noticed that the LM Deluxe 5 in Harvest Gold--my current LM 5--DOES in effect have a bigger and wider body- so too does its sister the LM5 Deluxe belonging to ALPHAMAN. Coupling, on site observation and then with an LG in my hand the other night--it confirmed that the back on the LM had (has) a much deeper cut as opposed to the more shallow cut of the smaller bodied LG 5 and RA 5 I played recently.

I LIKE THE LOOK of the wider bodies and deeper cuts. The RA5and LG 5 I played both had that SADOWSKY kind of "Dinky Jazz" shape going on I noticed. :hmm:

( A deeper cut because ..well you guessed it..A BIGGER BODY needs it is my guess--especially factoring in 10 years of heavy gigging and stuff is my guess ??? :hmm: )

Thus, I concluded that knowing the weight was already in the heavy range by the former owner and its BIGGER size. This bass DOES look HEAVY. I like the look of a heavier body-the voluptuous kind of thing I guess :eek:

Say, if 2 Alleva's were sie by side and different sizes my basic instinct would be too guess that the BIGGER one weighs more--BUT that wouldn't necessary be the case of course.

Al I am saying is that I LOVE THE LOOK OF of my Harvest Gold LM 5 Deluxe and its weight. I lovingly call her Marilyn Munroe :bassist:

Alphaman told me that his bass was heavy (12.5 pounds I think it was ?) and that he LOVED it too because of the sound--they all sound good--Lets Face It.:hyper:

Speaking of ALPHAMAN's bass I feel it is the best looking AC out there, and in 10 years if he is not able to lift the thing to play then I am on it VIC--but you get first dibs :D:D:D

You all have a good weekeend and stuff down there now ya hear ??? ;)
 
umm...just to make things clearer....

Jimmy's "slightly" larger new body style was offset a fair degree by slightly thinning out the width of the new bodies at the same time. Both moves I think were more in line with classic Fender dimensions/porportions.

The weight on the NAMM batch was mostly from the source wood, and not from the larger body style.

I have an LM coming with the new body style that came in at just under 11 pounds (even without sanding) after putting all the parts on the digital scale. Final on the bass will be approx 10 3/4.
 
FWIW - I was only referencing 10.75lbs in regards to how it felt playing a one hour set, no comment on tone relation I know better. I also recently joined a gym so I am hoping some of the weight issues with basses and cabs become a bit less of an issue in the future and if I can lower my cholesterol in the process GREAT!

Playing the LM last night I really felt like ME, it worked well I didn't think about it. Sounded right, felt right. Couldn't ask for more.

At 10.75lb the weight debate is a non issue for me. I have no experience with LM5s outside of my own to have any opinion on how the heavier northern ash compares to others...
 
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