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Club Alleva-Coppolo (Part 18)

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#408
So, I pulled the trigger! Here's what I ordered:

For sure:

LG5 Standard
lightweight
21 frets with rounded edge
thin 1-ply mint pickguard +
thin 1-ply tort guard
vintage off burgundy mist
matching headstock
schaller straplocks
chrome hardware
vol / vol / tone / eq setup (tone = push pull for active / passive)
signature of Jimmy on the back of the headstock
strung with roundwound strings

To be determined:

Tom Barney nut / string spacing?
Upgraded rosewood?

Now the wait begins... At least 18 months, but I'm looking forward to it :hyper:!
 
#410
Musicfreak1988 said:
So, I pulled the trigger! Here's what I ordered:

For sure:

LG5 Standard

To be determined:

Tom Barney nut / string spacing?
Upgraded rosewood?

Now the wait begins... At least 18 months, but I'm looking forward to it :hyper:!
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Congrats. On an LG I'd upgrade to Nitro before upgrading the board.
 
#414
Musicfreak1988 said:
Is it such a difference in sound?
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In a word. YES.

I played my second nitro finished AC bass late last night and now can safely conclude there IS a difference over the poly finish. The advantage I personally feel is for the nitro.
I played a nitro NYC 1600 that was KILLER in Jimmy's own words--and believe me it was--IS !!! AND a newer white LG 5 Classic in white

I played 2 LG 5 Classics (CAOJ LG 5 and White LG 5--- and there is a difference---- with the nitro having more richness and fundamental to each note. Initially too, I felt there was a better ( more percussive and sweeter ) slap tone. NOTE: The nitro LG 5 also has the new capped at the headstock fingerboard which Jimmy claims on Meet Your Maker vid to give a better slap tone ????
For me it did anyways--KILLIN'. :hyper:

So my humble conclusion is that on the same wood choice bass, or model, the nitro finish will likely yield a more satisfying tone for the masses over its counterpart-the poly finish.

If budget were not an issue I would ALWAYS choose the nitro over the poly for tone, hands down.

Durability ?? Well maybe a poly would be better for wear and tear and stuff. :hmm:

For a humble old school kind of guy I personally find the Alleva Coppolo basses to be the most pleasing in the high end Fender styled boutique bass world..
I'm good with them....:D
 
#415
unless youve played the same exact bass finished both ways, its a pretty big stretch to attribute the difference to the paint. i had to have a new body made for one of my basses and the only difference is the new body is lighter by a matter of ounces. still alder, still poly finish. its now more open with a better fundamental on the B string. everything else was still the same. i cant imagine trying to compare two different basses with two different densities and two different fretboard thicknesses and attributing tonal differences to the finish.

when i originally bought my 62 jazz it was finished in poly. i had it refinished in nitro. the earth didnt move when i got it back.
 
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narud said:
unless youve played the same exact bass finished both ways, its a pretty big stretch to attribute the difference to the paint. i had to have a new body made for one of my basses and the only difference is the new body is lighter by a matter of ounces. still alder, still poly finish. its now more open with a better fundamental on the B string. everything else was still the same. i cant imagine trying to compare two different basses with two different densities and two different fretboard thicknesses and attributing tonal differences to the finish.

when i originally bought my 62 jazz it was finished in poly. i had it refinished in nitro. the earth didnt move when i got it back.
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1. True a lot of factors go into what constitutes a great tone --not to mention the personal components of taste and choice. Weight, wood, electronics, strings and YES my friend finish---- NITRO or POLY in my humble opionion is one of them. :):)

2. I never heard of a 1962 Jazz bass being poly finished and THEN being re-shot as nitro. Don't early Fender basses have a nitro finish. I've owned several P and J basses and they were ALL NITRO. Is this a re-issue you are referring to cuz Jazz basses from that year--should be NITRO I thought ?

ACTUALLY why did you go for the earth shaking experience (possibilty) of getting your jazz bass re-finned in NITRO ??? Admitingly there are and will be different opinions on one finish versus the other, right ???

3. I have heard some "stripped" pre CBS Fender basses sound killer, and too, I have heard some all original Pre CBS Fender basses with a marginal amount of finish left on them BUT still all original---- and they have too have sounded--well--KILLER ! :bawl::bawl:

4. I have owned at least a half dozen 65 Jazz basses --all original -- for example, and they all sounded different--from awful to astonishing. Go figure ? :hmm::hmm:

5. I have to stand by my original impressions of nitro finish on ALLEVA basses for the time being---PLUS, there's gotta be some reason why this process is so darn expensive--IT'S NOT FOR THE LOOKS IS IT ?.....:ninja:

peace on a poly
peace on a nitro.
:D:D:D
 
#418
If I was getting a 60s styled bass (lg) I would try and get it the way it was done then. Nitro. Does every body sound different? Sure. As does every neck, due to weight, grain density wood type, and paint finish. Its all important IMHO...I prefer nitros feel personally and love that it wears, but may not be for everyone.. For my LM it's going poly. Why? Only because it's based on the 70s style..
 
#419
bassarama said:
1. True a lot of factors go into what constitutes a great tone --not to mention the personal components of taste and choice. Weight, wood, electronics, strings and YES my friend finish---- NITRO or POLY in my humble opionion is one of them. :):)

2. I never heard of a 1962 Jazz bass being poly finished and THEN being re-shot as nitro. Don't early Fender basses have a nitro finish. I've owned several P and J basses and they were ALL NITRO. Is this a re-issue you are referring to cuz Jazz basses from that year--should be NITRO I thought ?

ACTUALLY why did you go for the earth shaking experience (possibilty) of getting your jazz bass re-finned in NITRO ??? Admitingly there are and will be different opinions on one finish versus the other, right ???

3. I have heard some "stripped" pre CBS Fender basses sound killer, and too, I have heard some all original Pre CBS Fender basses with a marginal amount of finish left on them BUT still all original---- and they have too have sounded--well--KILLER ! :bawl::bawl:

4. I have owned at least a half dozen 65 Jazz basses --all original -- for example, and they all sounded different--from awful to astonishing. Go figure ? :hmm::hmm:

5. I have to stand by my original impressions of nitro finish on ALLEVA basses for the time being---PLUS, there's gotta be some reason why this process is so darn expensive--IT'S NOT FOR THE LOOKS IS IT ?.....:ninja:

peace on a poly
peace on a nitro.
:D:D:D
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my 62 was refinished already when i bought it. i went with nitro since it was period correct. the tone didnt open up or anything after it was done.

and considering some of the inconsistencies in the amount of wire that would go on pickups, i can see why some of your old fenders would vary so greatly completely independent of wood. ive seen some 65 pickups with dcr reading of mid 5k all the way to mid 7k. thats gonna go from thin sounding shite to ballsy. i wonder how often those basses tonal qualities got attributed to other factors.

and cost cant be a factor. theres nitro guys that shoot for the same price as guys that do poly. jack pidgeon can charge an arm and a leg for a body because he can say he shot for fender back in the day.

and the best sounding bass of jimmys ive played was a white poly lg4. the nitro does feel quite a bit different though. isnt nitro like a 1k upgrade these days?
 
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ricksy said:
If I was getting a 60s styled bass (lg) I would try and get it the way it was done then. Nitro. Does every body sound different? Sure. As does every neck, due to weight, grain density wood type, and paint finish. Its all important IMHO...I prefer nitros feel personally and love that it wears, but may not be for everyone.. For my LM it's going poly. Why? Only because it's based on the 70s style..
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if money's no object, than yeah, i would do nitro as well. but only because of vibe and feel to be period correct. if ill im worried about is tone and not completely blowing my wad, im going (and went) poly.
 
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