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Club Alleva Coppolo (part 2)

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What sort of Rosewood is this?

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That looks similar to the 'Indian' Rosewood that Roger Sadowsky uses as an option on his NYC basses... dark color, but with a touch of grain and swirl. I've seen Morado boards that also look a lot like that.. very brown but with some color variation and swirl.

My Madagascar RW board on my Sadowsky is very red, with a lot of grain and swirl to it.

I still prefer that dark, even Brazilian though!
 
#683
Sorry for the Sadowsky picture on the Alleva thread, but here's a picture of my very red Madagascar board! My bad flash picture kind of eliminates the subtle grain, but it has lot's of black swirls and a very open grain.
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#684
KJung said:
That looks similar to the 'Indian' Rosewood that Roger Sadowsky uses as an option on his NYC basses... dark color, but with a touch of grain and swirl. I've seen Morado boards that also look a lot like that.. very brown but with some color variation and swirl.
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Interesting. I thought the many little pores were quite unusual, had never noticed that on a Rosewood board before.
 
#685
needmoney said:
Interesting. I thought the many little pores were quite unusual, had never noticed that on a Rosewood board before.
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My Sadowsky RW board has that very open grain and pores also... I like that... it has a very soft, sort of oily sort of feel to it.

That stump cut Brazilian RW that Carey Nordstrand uses is amazing... very dark, but with very open grain and a nice oily sort of feel to it... really rich and dark and even, like the board on your 59.

I am one who doesn't feel the variety of RW makes much of a difference on tone, but others disagree. Morado (not a real RW, but it looks like RW) is a cool option since it seems harder and smoother and more 'maple-like' in snap and feel and response than many true RW boards I've played, but yet gives you that 'RW' look if that's what you are going for.
 
#687
That second board is a beauty! The first one looks a lot like the basses Roger lists as Madagascar. I wonder if there is a touch of 'looseness' going on in the naming of these boards:hmm: However, just as every maple board looks a touch different, I'm sure there is plenty of variation depending on the age of the board, the individual tree or stump, the part of the tree that the board came from, and even the impact of the particular photo lighting.
 
#690
Andrew Jones said:
Yes,But figured?Right?


Aj
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Correct... I like them all! I actually preferred the figuring in general on RW boards until I saw those clean, dark chocolate stump cut RW boards that Carey has.... just amazing, and similar to some of the Alleva boards I've seen. All beautiful stuff!!!! Of course, pure personal taste. I still totally dig the very red board on my Sadowsky, and it has long, dark almost black 'stringers' up and down the board.. really cool!

Again, my comment to the original poster was that figuring in RW seems to have very little correlation with quality, rareness, etc., etc.... it seems to be more of an asthetic choice, versus for example, the number, nature and density of 'eyes'
in a birdseye maple board... with more meaning more expensive/rare, etc.


I'm not even going to start the 'Nitro versus thin Poly' discussion:D
 
#692
Mad Tango said:
I do think that Alleve-Coppolo is a good bass, but again you do take a chance if you have not played one before ordering.
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I think this is the case with any bass, with regards to "taking a chance" by ordering w/o playing first. But for me, I really respect the opinion of some folks here at TB and believe I have similar likes and dislikes. Also folks like Jkung really do a good job of describing various aspects on instruments, so in my opinion, in my case this is not a very big risk.
 
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KJung said:
Without your profile filled in, I have no idea of what sort of bass tone your prefer. But, in response to your post, it's people feeling that a piece of gear is 'hot' or 'the flavor of the day' that can get buyers into trouble (i.e., a lot of people like it, therefore I will like it).

If you want a true vintage Fender tone in a new handmade instrument, I have not seen any better bass than the Alleva-Coppolo. Also, for those of us who really dig J basses, 'figuring' of a rosewood board is the last thing on our mind, and much old cut rosewood is very dark, even and chocolate colored.

If you are one who loves J Basses and was looking for a vintage tone in a modern instrument, and you then posted that you didn't like the Alleva, I would be surprised. If, on the other hand, your profile was filled with active, soapbar type basses, or basses with fancy wood tops and wooden knobs, I can totally see the stock Alleva models not really floating your boat.

All of these reviews need to be put in the context of tone goals and the players preference. That's why it's both important to take a look at a posters profile, and to also fill yours out.

I personally am more impressed each gig with my LM-5, and it's going on almost a year now:)... but I love J basses, and I hate wooden knobs and soapbar pickups:D
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I agree, Im not sure why some don't put in a profile. I to love J basses and the Alleva Coppolo attracts those who do. Im sure you had and have mordern basses as I do and did (Im a terrible writer). Recently i was listening to some recordings I did with my Tobias Classic 6. I said wow that sounds like an old fender in some ways. I liked it. But that was the point I had a modern type bass trying to sound like a fender. I remember once I bought an MTD 5 and it was said to me if your looking for a fender type sound you can get that if you change the controls this way(Im a big fan of Mike Tobias and I get the feeling he is somewhat pissed at me, but I have total respect for his craftmanship, A great great bass maker in everyway). I guess I was looking for that tone with some great and modern basses. The Alleva Coppolo attacted me to that sound right away. As I was playing it last night. No matter what your control preferences are on the Alleva Coppolo its a vintage fender type tone. Maybe thats why its your (and mine) Main bass. Another thing that attracts me to the AC basses is that much of it is made by Jimmy. As with some of the modern type basses like MTD made in Kingston NY. I just can't see paying the big dollars on basses made by parts. Shipped over and put together by a ...a ... Luthier. I guess. Jimmy is making a strong statement that he is not changing his style with making a bass as he is totally into making a vintage sounding bass. So if the modern tone is a preference the Alleva Coppolo is not an option. But if you are changing your controls on a bass that is specified to have a modern tone, than it is an option. See Kjung there are times i agree with you so don't get too angry with me.
 
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KJung said:
Without your profile filled in, I have no idea of what sort of bass tone your prefer. But, in response to your post, it's people feeling that a piece of gear is 'hot' or 'the flavor of the day' that can get buyers into trouble (i.e., a lot of people like it, therefore I will like it).

If you want a true vintage Fender tone in a new handmade instrument, I have not seen any better bass than the Alleva-Coppolo. Also, for those of us who really dig J basses, 'figuring' of a rosewood board is the last thing on our mind, and much old cut rosewood is very dark, even and chocolate colored.

If you are one who loves J Basses and was looking for a vintage tone in a modern instrument, and you then posted that you didn't like the Alleva, I would be surprised. If, on the other hand, your profile was filled with active, soapbar type basses, or basses with fancy wood tops and wooden knobs, I can totally see the stock Alleva models not really floating your boat.

All of these reviews need to be put in the context of tone goals and the players preference. That's why it's both important to take a look at a posters profile, and to also fill yours out.

I personally am more impressed each gig with my LM-5, and it's going on almost a year now:)... but I love J basses, and I hate wooden knobs and soapbar pickups:D
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I am not trying to start any kind of issue. However; you did not read what I wrote. I stated that the instrument I played was not as "punchy" as I would have expected in a high dollar bass. That means it doesn't matter if I am refering to a Jazz, P-bass, Stingray, Sadowsky, AC, etc..... A bass made out of that type of tone wood (Alder in this case) should project the sound acoustically as well as ampilfied. That is a clear statement about tone that everyone should understand w/out profile. It was not as punchy as my two Alderwood basses, one being a 74 jazz w/nice figured Indian rosewood and the other a good P-bass w/65 neck. I was considering getting an AC for my anniversary, but I am thankful that I got a chance to play one first. As I said before I think Alleve-Coppolo's are very good basses, but just not for me. I liked the bass, but it was not the bass for me at that price. Do not get offended as some would not like my favorite basses as well. Bass players sometimes have second thoughts on all basses they purchase no matter what they cost and resale Sadowsky's, Ritters, AC, Fenders, Lakland's, etc. * My whole point of posting my message is to remind players to play one before buying if possible. This is a big purchase to consider.
 
#699
Bass7755 said:
I have had my Alleva for a while now. It became my
main bass really quick. I LOVE the old school feel and
tone. I'm thinking about ordering a RA-5 next year.

I acually told my wife about my plans to order the
RA-5 a few minutes ago and she thought it was a
GREAT idea. :rolleyes::)

The LG-5 is such great bass I'm not sure why I "need"
another bass. GAS IS a BAD thing.

Specs for my "new" RA-5 (for now) is the same as the
as the Ice Blue RA-5 on the Alleva web site.
But... I gotta have a polly finish. I think that one
is owned by a TB'er.

I gotta tell ya bro's I am LOVIN my A-C!!!! :hyper:
Dan
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That's so good to hear, Dan!

It seems that Alleva's become the main bass for just about everyone that decides to acquire one. I'm liking the sound of that! ;)

The RA5 is a hot bass too. I'm sure you'll dig it just as much!
 
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