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Club Alleva Coppolo (part 2)

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I have not had the chance to swap bridges yet from my KBP5 to to the LG5 .. one day i will..


gruuv said:
Going way back on you, Mitch. . . still trying to catch up on this thread. I guess you're meaning that the Hipshot Brass is more open with a faster attack than the new bridge?

Thanks!
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gruuv said:
Going way back on you, Mitch. . . still trying to catch up on this thread. I guess you're meaning that the Hipshot Brass is more open with a faster attack than the new bridge?

Thanks!
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gruuv;

i see my post was not clear sorry..no i meant the new bridge had more of those qualities than the brass hipshot from what i could tell in that enviroment. im still waiting myself for a new bridge to be avail for me to try here.

i didnt like the aluminum as much as the brass hipshot for my bass, and, i even put a brass vintage style hipshot on it and that sounded really good...and the holes lined up so no fuss.

still sorting out the final bridge choice for me.
 
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svtb15 said:
I have not had the chance to swap bridges yet from my KBP5 to to the LG5 .. one day i will..
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Cool, I'll be interested to hear!

basses55 said:
gruuv;

i see my post was not clear sorry..no i meant the new bridge had more of those qualities than the brass hipshot from what i could tell in that enviroment. im still waiting myself for a new bridge to be avail for me to try here.

i didnt like the aluminum as much as the brass hipshot for my bass, and, i even put a brass vintage style hipshot on it and that sounded really good...and the holes lined up so no fuss.

still sorting out the final bridge choice for me.
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Thanks, Mitch. So, how much use is the Alleva seeing with all your Foderas and such?
 
#984
NickyBass said:
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Absolutely gorgeous. Totally diggin' that color. Congrats...
 
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gruuv said:
Cool, I'll be interested to hear!



Thanks, Mitch. So, how much use is the Alleva seeing with all your Foderas and such?
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no probs gruuv

The AC is my alder-rosewood option right now and I'm loving it. I've been and am primarily an ash/maple player and did not expect the AC to replace that approach..however its getting more attention than I may have expected because its so good. It really "warmed" me to this wood combo and complicated my bass choice..which i suppose was the best thing that I could have hoped for:)
Even though I have a some extra basses, the Fodera, FBass, Celinder, and AC cover anything I can do/play anyways..and certainly goes beyond my "needs". They are all different from each other but wonderful music tools.
 
#990
Nicky:
I think you made a great choice and I think you'll be pleased no doubt...........Gun Metal is a very cool color and one you don't see as much.........looking forward to your LG specs........

AJ: Seriously thinking about TI flats on my LG.....I hate to take away the slap option, though, but there's no other way to get that classic sound........
 
#991
I thought TI flats didn't sound like other flats, so they won't sound classic?? I have owned so many sets of TIs, but I always sell the bass I mean to put them on before I get around to putting them on! heheh. I just put D'Addario chromes on my yamaha, so far they are kind of meh.. if you know what I mean.
 
#992
Sean Baumann said:
I thought TI flats didn't sound like other flats, so they won't sound classic?? I have owned so many sets of TIs, but I always sell the bass I mean to put them on before I get around to putting them on! heheh. I just put D'Addario chromes on my yamaha, so far they are kind of meh.. if you know what I mean.
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I played a Fender Palladino P Bass with TI flats and that sounded really good to me.....I might actually choose that bass before I choose the KBP..........
 
#993
Hey Nicky I love the color of your KBP4. I was thinking
about ordering my next Alleva in Ice Blue. But, that Gun
Metal Blue might look pretty cool with blocks and
binding too. :) I'll probably change my mind a few times
before I order one though. :confused::)
Dan
 
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Bass7755 said:
Hey Nicky I love the color of your KBP4. I was thinking
about ordering my next Alleva in Ice Blue. But, that Gun
Metal Blue might look pretty cool with blocks and
binding too. :) I'll probably change my mind a few times
before I order one though. :confused::)
Dan
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Yeah, it sure is a looker. The ice blue is gorgeous too, and sonic blue is another killer choice. Maybe just tell Jimmy to just give you 'blue' and let him run with it -- haha.
 
#995
Does anyone feel that certain basses 'open' up after playing them for a while? Not that they ever sound 'bad,' but maybe by playing them a few weeks, the glue starts to loosen up, or the wood starts to vibrate 'with' the string-and, over time, (a week, a month, a year) they start to develop my (your) sound.(?) Is this just hogwash or does anyone think that maybe there is something to this? I know the opinions will be varied and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter, but it's just something that I've been thinking about lately.
 
#996
I do.

I know for a fact that it happens with the double bass. It's not the subtle thing that I believe the electric goes through. If I don't play my double bass for 2 weeks it sounds like crap and it's harder to bow. It's very obvious. It needs to be warmed up which means bowing it for a hour or two (or days if its been a long time). I can't help but connect that to long term use.


I also can't help but project all that onto the electric considering of corse that its primarily a electric instrument.The characteristics are subtler.,MHO.





Aj
 
#997
NickyBass said:
Does anyone feel that certain basses 'open' up after playing them for a while? Not that they ever sound 'bad,' but maybe by playing them a few weeks, the glue starts to loosen up, or the wood starts to vibrate 'with' the string-and, over time, (a week, a month, a year) they start to develop my (your) sound.(?) Is this just hogwash or does anyone think that maybe there is something to this? I know the opinions will be varied and at the end of the day it really doesn't matter, but it's just something that I've been thinking about lately.
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Yes. I have noticed this on two basses (I don't buy many new), especially my MTD. I does sound noticeably different to me now that I have played it for several years. The older it gets, the better it sounds. My Sadowsky has also developed a bit over the last 9 months or so, but not as much as I have noticed with my MTD. I am fairly sure it has nothing to do with improved technique.
 
#998
Sean Baumann said:
Yes. I have noticed this on two basses (I don't buy many new), especially my MTD. I does sound noticeably different to me now that I have played it for several years. The older it gets, the better it sounds. My Sadowsky has also developed a bit over the last 9 months or so, but not as much as I have noticed with my MTD. I am fairly sure it has nothing to do with improved technique.
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My guess is, this has MUCH more to do with changes in technique (i.e., subtle adjustments to hand position, etc. to fit the instruments voicing) and your ear just getting used to the instrument, versus some magic 'aging' of the wood'. Maybe after a couple of hundred years... maybe. But after a couple of years (especially since most wood is no kiln dried to be very consistent), I don't think so:smug:
 
#999
KJung said:
My guess is, this has MUCH more to do with changes in technique (i.e., subtle adjustments to hand position, etc. to fit the instruments voicing) and your ear just getting used to the instrument, versus some magic 'aging' of the wood'. Maybe after a couple of hundred years... maybe. But after a couple of years (especially since most wood is no kiln dried to be very consistent), I don't think so:smug:
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It goes beyond sound, it even vibrates differently. In the case of my MTD it may have something to do with the aging of the ebony fingerboard as it used to be insanely dry and unstable. Now is it very much stable and is kept oiled -- it rarely gets dry. All I can say is it used to have some deadspots, but they are largely gone now. I don't think it has anything to do with wood aging.... and I know it gets weird and unscientific, it is like the parts now act like one if you know what I mean.
 
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Sean Baumann said:
It goes beyond sound, it even vibrates differently. In the case of my MTD it may have something to do with the aging of the ebony fingerboard as it used to be insanely dry and unstable. Now is it very much stable and is kept oiled -- it rarely gets dry. All I can say is it used to have some deadspots, but they are largely gone now. I don't think it has anything to do with wood aging.... and I know it gets weird and unscientific, it is like the parts now act like one if you know what I mean.
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It makes no sense to me.:) I also never, ever heard of true 'deadspots' going away 'magically'. However, if you hear it, you hear it. What the effect is attributable to is a moot point.

The thing that doesn't pass the 'sniff' test to me is I've never heard anyone post that an instrument sounds 'worse' as it ages, it's always 'better':smug: This makes no sense, since if these instruments were 'changing' so much, there should be an equal distribution of those getting better and those getting worse. In other words, if some dead spots disappear over time, then others should emerge (again, I don't believe any of this happens, but if it did, you would see the opposite pattern also... and you never do).

So much of this has to do with context. When I get a new bass, it actually makes my other basses sound different to me, since I now have a different listening context to hear them in. Is this some sort of quantum 'spooky entanglement' effect. Probably not:D...
 
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