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Hi
Just to draw your attention to a few changes to the ACG circuit.
The lowpass filter while still going lower than the Alembic filter also now goes up to 6.3kHz so in the same ballpark as the Alembic. We have also lowered the High pass filter to around 1kHz which has increased the overlap between the two filters. This allows you to attack the mids with either filter or just one.
These changes were implemented when the 02 version was brought out so after the one Edwin has.

The repeatability is also being addressed in the next version which will have detent pots.

Cheers
Alan

Alan
 
You are of course right. It appears that the Lion version of OSX has the same word suggestion software the iPhone has. I have just upgraded to it and did not notice it had substituted the word I thought I had typed.

Would be a cool feature for the big final number.

The pots do not have a centre detent they have 41 detents round the full travel of the pot.
 
Hi
Just to draw your attention to a few changes to the ACG circuit.
The lowpass filter while still going lower than the Alembic filter also now goes up to 6.3kHz so in the same ballpark as the Alembic. We have also lowered the High pass filter to around 1kHz which has increased the overlap between the two filters. This allows you to attack the mids with either filter or just one.
These changes were implemented when the 02 version was brought out so after the one Edwin has.

The repeatability is also being addressed in the next version which will have detent pots.

Cheers
Alan

Alan

Wow! Great news! I have to give mad props to Alan for not only making great looking basses (I'm sure they sound as great as they look, but I'm not so lucky as to have played one), but also designing a preamp that just sounds good. So many pres out there smear the sound or have great features but somehow degrade the basic tone, but the ACGs have really good clarity, depth and versatility. I have the feeling that it's the kind of preamp that would make people who hate active instruments love them. I know that sounds like hyperbole, but there it is.

I wonder if I can mod mine for the increased frequency range....
 
I have one the first ACG pres, which has a filter set for each pickup. It has some pros against the Alembic (lower sweep for the LPF and the treble recovery circuit) but some cons as well (sweep doesn't go as high as the Alembic SI or SII). I had it in my Starfire with DS pickups for quite a while. I really liked the low frequency sounds and the fact that it's made superbly. It's a very quiet circuit and works quite well. However, at the end of the day, I'm not really happy with the fact that the upper end of the low pass filter only goes to 3khz. The Alembics go all the way to 6khz and given that one of the big uses for the filter setup is to adjust the attack of the string, especially with pick playing and slapping, the ACG cuts itself off at the knees. Having the treble recovery control helps, but it's really not the same. 6Khz is essentially the upper end of the frequencies that a bass with round wounds generates, so it makes sense to have the filter reach all the way up there, as part of its beauty is how the resonance reaches into the frequencies below the cutoff point as you adjust the Q. Also, limiting the frequency sweep from 300hz at the low end allows the Alembic circuit to concentrate on the mids and highs and makes it much easier to hone in on just the right frequencies. The ACG control is much more sensitive and harder to find exactly the right frequency.

I also had trouble with the wiring on the ACG. Given that the Starfire controls are so far apart, the ribbon cables were stretched to the max and also required some twisting, so they would pop out of the modules on occasion. Overall, I'm much happier with the Series II controls in my Starfire. However, I'm thinking of dropping the ACG into my Modulus Q6 and seeing how that works out. Should be pretty cool!

At the end of the day, the Superfilter is really the one that is done right. The big thing that makes it so cool (aside from it's wide sweep and different filter types) is being able to blend filtered and direct signals. I talked to John East about trying to do this with the ACG pre and he said it wasn't possible. I did some experiments on my own and confirmed that it was at least beyond my abilities.

There are some good discussions on the filter and pickups threads from this page: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

As far as Jack and Phil's filter use goes, I don't think Jack had a full Superfilter setup, so it wasn't hard to keep his tone from running off the rails. Phil, on the other hand, was fairly conservative most of the time with his filter settings, but I've heard some crazy stuff ca. '72-74 that he did with the filters, especially in some of the Phil and Ned adventures. Most of it seems bandpass based. I think it's the Hundred Year Hall release that has some radical filter sounds during the Other One jam. Certainly by going to the bridge pickup, cranking the Q and backing off the filter I can get some of those 1974 Eyes of the World bass solo sounds.
Yeah that's interesting as I was planning on fitting one of my custom semi's with DarkStars and the ACG/East filter pre. I must admit I didn't take much notice of the breadth of the sweep - there's nothing else much like it out there - especially as it works out relatively good value in the UK. It looks like the 6khz issue has now been addressed anyway but now I've read your post I'll be asking about longer ribbons before I shell out any cash on a new pre.
 
Yeah that's interesting as I was planning on fitting one of my custom semi's with DarkStars and the ACG/East filter pre. I must admit I didn't take much notice of the breadth of the sweep - there's nothing else much like it out there - especially as it works out relatively good value in the UK. It looks like the 6khz issue has now been addressed anyway but now I've read your post I'll be asking about longer ribbons before I shell out any cash on a new pre.

The longer ribbons are a problem in that the cables are available as precut items. When I looked for ribbon cable, I discovered that Alan and John had given me the longest precut lengths available as per my request. What I planned to do if I kept that preamp in the Starfire was to get some other ribbon cable and cut my own lengths, maybe computer ribbon cable. I think you'll be really happy with it!
 
Count me in :cool:
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The longer ribbons are a problem in that the cables are available as precut items. When I looked for ribbon cable, I discovered that Alan and John had given me the longest precut lengths available as per my request. What I planned to do if I kept that preamp in the Starfire was to get some other ribbon cable and cut my own lengths, maybe computer ribbon cable. I think you'll be really happy with it!
I'm just looking at an ACG 02 on my bench right now and the ribbons are hard wired. I'll drop Allan a line and ask him about longer ribbons. If he can sort out some longer ribbons the only problem remaining is getting hold of some BiSonics or DarkStars. :bawl: At this rate I might have to make some myself....
 
I'm just looking at an ACG 02 on my bench right now and the ribbons are hard wired. I'll drop Allan a line and ask him about longer ribbons. If he can sort out some longer ribbons the only problem remaining is getting hold of some BiSonics or DarkStars. :bawl: At this rate I might have to make some myself....
I just contacted Allan and it doesn't look that difficult to extend the cables. So, just some pickups to find...

On another note, I was looking at a picture of Phil Lesh's modded EB and the pickups don't look exactly like stock BiSonics. (This was on the Hammon Engineering site, the pictures at the bottom of the Home Page, metal bobbins and cut away pickup surrounds???) Were they specially modified?
 
IOn another note, I was looking at a picture of Phil Lesh's modded EB and the pickups don't look exactly like stock BiSonics. (This was on the Hammon Engineering site, the pictures at the bottom of the Home Page, metal bobbins and cut away pickup surrounds???) Were they specially modified?

They were shielded. That's why they look like that. The only thing they might have done was to add a magnet like Casady did on his first Starfire. Some of the bisonics have only one magnet instead of two.
 
JUST Purchased my first Dark Star bass.
From what I am told and have read, might not be the last one :)
She leaves Virginia tonight in the brown truck on her way up North to New Yawk!
Psyched for her arrival!!

Lakland US Hollowbody in Shoreline Gold with factory loaded dual Darkstars :D

Would be cool to grab a number ;)

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