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Club Fbass (thread 13)

I'm more of a bass hoarder. I have difficulty imagining myself selling an instrument. I've only done this once to raise a little money to move across Canada.

After careful consideration, perhaps I have one I could sell under one condition. I have a KSD Burner Deluxe 6 which sounds fine and plays well. I would only sell it if I happen to acquire an official Ken Smith 6.

Quick story.

For the longest time I only played 4-string basses. I was one of those bassists that thought, "Jaco only needed 4 strings... Victor doesn't seem limited by 4 strings... upright basses have 4 strings... centuries of GREAT music have 4-string basses underneath it... it's fine other bassists want extended range basses but 4 is all I need."

In fact, the business man in me wondered if extended range basses were perhaps a gimmick to sell more basses to people who have enough basses — a solution to the business problem of market saturation.

Then I bought DVD (Lee Ritenour & Friends live from the Cocoanut Grove). On it, Anthony Jackson played a 6-string Fodera. I loved the DVD and watched it several times.

Then the unthinkable happened:

I was playing a live gig. We were doing a song I'd played countless times, only this time I went for a low C on my non-existent B-string.

I could not believe I did that!

After some thought, I decided if my ears and hands wanted a B-string, what would be the harm in getting just 1 bass that had one, for those special circumstances only, of course. (After all, everyone's doing it, and it will only be this once. ;-) )

Rather than buy a 5-string bass, which at the time seemed completely pointless to me (may as well have a C string too for soloing), I set out to buy a 6-string bass.

Alaska isn't exactly New York, Chicago, LA, or Hamilton: we can't just try different basses until we find what we like — so I decided to buy what one of my bass heroes was using for a 6-string bass, John Patitucci:

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There were lots of options so I reached out to Ken Smith with questions and got a surprisingly arrogant and rude response.

Ken Smith convinced me that I would feel better about myself knowing that he would be making his living without my money, so I went looking for another 6-string bass maker.

Eventually I bought a Yamaha Patitucci model 6er, then a fretless Patitucci 6er, then discovered FBass's 6ers and sold my Yamahas and have been FBass for 6-string basses ever since.
 
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Quick story.

For the longest time I only played 4-string basses. I was one of those bassists that thought, "Jaco only needed 4 strings... Victor doesn't seem limited by 4 strings... upright basses have 4 strings... centuries of GREAT music have 4-string basses underneath it... it's fine other bassists want extended range basses but 4 is all I need."

In fact, the business man in me wondered if extended range basses were perhaps a gimmick to sell more basses to people who have enough basses — a solution to the business problem of market saturation.

Then I bought DVD (Lee Ritenour & Friendds live from the Cocoanut Grove). On it, Anthony Jackson played a 6-string Fodera. I loved the DVD and watched it several times.

Then the unthinkable happened:

I was playing a live gig. We were doing a song I'd played countless times, only this time I went for a low C on my non-existent B-string.

I could not believe I did that!

After some thought, I decided if my ears and hands wanted a B-string, what would be the harm in getting just 1 bass that had one, for those special circumstances only, of course. (After all, everyone's doing it, and it will only be this once. ;-) )

Rather than buy a 5-string bass, which at the time seemed completely pointless to me (may as well have a C string too for soloing), I set out to buy a 6-string bass.

Alaska isn't exactly New York, Chicago, LA, or Hamilton: we can't just try different basses until we find what we like — so I decided to buy what one of my bass heroes was using for a 6-string bass, John Patitucci:

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There were lots of options so I reached out to Ken Smith with questions and got a surprisingly arrogant and rude response.

Ken Smith convinced me that I would feel better about myself knowing that an idiot and jerk like him would be making his living without my money, so I went looking for another 6-string bass maker.

Eventually I bought a Yamaha Patitucci model 6er, then a fretless Patitucci 6er, then discovered FBass's 6ers and sold my Yamahas and have been FBass for 6-string basses ever since.
Congrats on extra string basses! I unfortunately am too dumb to have more than four...they become thumb rests for me. Dooohhh
Also..I've heard more bad than good about Ken S. As a person. I vow to never buy a new or used KenS product. I'm self employed for 30 years now...personality and product are an equal part in my book. I want customers to say that I'm approachable and helpful, not rude etc.
Anyway.....long live 4 strings!!!! ( confetti and bonbons flutter from the ceiling) ;)
 
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Yes... this is sort of my conundrum in that when I am picking what to play, the F basses typically win over my other 6's and consequently they just sit there. It's hard to let them go just the same. I go back and forth on what to do. And... I still want and AC and I'd like VF5 P/J too.
I kept my Yamaha 6ers for awhile as practice basses. I never changed their strings and used them for scales, dexterity, learning tunes, etc. so I could preserve the freshness on my BN6s, my "gigging" basses.
 
Quick story.

For the longest time I only played 4-string basses. I was one of those bassists that thought, "Jaco only needed 4 strings... Victor doesn't seem limited by 4 strings... upright basses have 4 strings... centuries of GREAT music have 4-string basses underneath it... it's fine other bassists want extended range basses but 4 is all I need."

In fact, the business man in me wondered if extended range basses were perhaps a gimmick to sell more basses to people who have enough basses — a solution to the business problem of market saturation.

Then I bought DVD (Lee Ritenour & Friends live from the Cocoanut Grove). On it, Anthony Jackson played a 6-string Fodera. I loved the DVD and watched it several times.

Then the unthinkable happened:

I was playing a live gig. We were doing a song I'd played countless times, only this time I went for a low C on my non-existent B-string.

I could not believe I did that!

After some thought, I decided if my ears and hands wanted a B-string, what would be the harm in getting just 1 bass that had one, for those special circumstances only, of course. (After all, everyone's doing it, and it will only be this once. ;-) )

Rather than buy a 5-string bass, which at the time seemed completely pointless to me (may as well have a C string too for soloing), I set out to buy a 6-string bass.

Alaska isn't exactly New York, Chicago, LA, or Hamilton: we can't just try different basses until we find what we like — so I decided to buy what one of my bass heroes was using for a 6-string bass, John Patitucci:

View attachment 3241238

There were lots of options so I reached out to Ken Smith with questions and got a surprisingly arrogant and rude response.

Ken Smith convinced me that I would feel better about myself knowing that he would be making his living without my money, so I went looking for another 6-string bass maker.

Eventually I bought a Yamaha Patitucci model 6er, then a fretless Patitucci 6er, then discovered FBass's 6ers and sold my Yamahas and have been FBass for 6-string basses ever since.
Great story, I really like to hear the road people took to get where they are now.
 
Quick story.

For the longest time I only played 4-string basses. I was one of those bassists that thought, "Jaco only needed 4 strings... Victor doesn't seem limited by 4 strings... upright basses have 4 strings... centuries of GREAT music have 4-string basses underneath it... it's fine other bassists want extended range basses but 4 is all I need."

In fact, the business man in me wondered if extended range basses were perhaps a gimmick to sell more basses to people who have enough basses — a solution to the business problem of market saturation.

Then I bought DVD (Lee Ritenour & Friends live from the Cocoanut Grove). On it, Anthony Jackson played a 6-string Fodera. I loved the DVD and watched it several times.

Then the unthinkable happened:

I was playing a live gig. We were doing a song I'd played countless times, only this time I went for a low C on my non-existent B-string.

I could not believe I did that!

After some thought, I decided if my ears and hands wanted a B-string, what would be the harm in getting just 1 bass that had one, for those special circumstances only, of course. (After all, everyone's doing it, and it will only be this once. ;-) )

Rather than buy a 5-string bass, which at the time seemed completely pointless to me (may as well have a C string too for soloing), I set out to buy a 6-string bass.

Alaska isn't exactly New York, Chicago, LA, or Hamilton: we can't just try different basses until we find what we like — so I decided to buy what one of my bass heroes was using for a 6-string bass, John Patitucci:

View attachment 3241238

There were lots of options so I reached out to Ken Smith with questions and got a surprisingly arrogant and rude response.

Ken Smith convinced me that I would feel better about myself knowing that he would be making his living without my money, so I went looking for another 6-string bass maker.

Eventually I bought a Yamaha Patitucci model 6er, then a fretless Patitucci 6er, then discovered FBass's 6ers and sold my Yamahas and have been FBass for 6-string basses ever since.

Cool story, bro.

No, seriously, that was a cool story! I'm with @graphics1988 , I haven't really heard anything good about Ken Smith, as a human. Not every super, mega-talented, incredibly amazing bass guitar builder can be a George Furlanetto or Sheldon Dingwall(Or Mike Tobias, Stuart Spector, Vinnie Fodera, or, literally, any other high-end bass builder who is also a decent human being.). Fortunately for Ken Smith, his basses are awesome and unique enough that he doesn't need us little people...c'est la vie.
 
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Great Story Tom!

Its too bad about Ken, but that mimics my own experience, and pretty much every other player I've spoken to, who has tried to have a dialog with him. Unless it was someone "almost famous", and then Ken was miraculously generous and benevolent with his time and energy. Weird, or not so weird. Ultimately, where you put your money has a lot of value and meaning, so I have made the conscious decision to put all my gear money with equipment made by people who I have an actual desire to support and see thrive. That support and generosity goes both ways, or it doesnt. :)
 
Great Story Tom!

Its too bad about Ken, but that mimics my own experience, and pretty much every other player I've spoken to, who has tried to have a dialog with him. Unless it was someone "almost famous", and then Ken was miraculously generous and benevolent with his time and energy. Weird, or not so weird. Ultimately, where you put your money has a lot of value and meaning, so I have made the conscious decision to put all my gear money with equipment made by people who I have an actual desire to support and see thrive. That support and generosity goes both ways, or it doesnt. :)
I couldn't agree more wholeheartedly! When I first learned about FBass I thought I might like to try one. I went to the shop and met George, Marcel and most of the team. I knew right away that this was a company (and family) that was well worth supporting. They have been extremely kind to, and generous with me. As a direct result, I didn't get one bass, I bought three, and am working out a way to make it four! Where you spend your money is important, and more powerful than people realize.
 
The finish looks original to me and I’d guess the fret markers peel off (?).
You could definitely be right about the finish. I based my guess on wondering if FBass have a rootbeer finish in 1998. I thought probably not.

Then again, it's hard to know about almost any feature when the luthier is by definition a custom bass builder.

My guess is most bassists would like to "shave" those mustache position markers if they are stickers. If they are painted, then maybe that happened with the refinish, if a refinished happened at all.
 
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So, it's a good news, bad news kinda day.

The bad news: There's a pretty solid chance I may not have any BN5s in the next couple of weeks. It is what it is and I just gotta deal with it.

The good news: Won't completely be out of the club. I was gonna try to keep it under wraps until I had it, but after seeing some pics, I gotta share...
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My heart, literally, skipped a beat when I got those pics! I cannot wait for this!!
 
So, it's a good news, bad news kinda day.

The bad news: There's a pretty solid chance I may not have any BN5s in the next couple of weeks. It is what it is and I just gotta deal with it.

The good news: Won't completely be out of the club. I was gonna try to keep it under wraps until I had it, but after seeing some pics, I gotta share...View attachment 3247926 View attachment 3247928

My heart, literally, skipped a beat when I got those pics! I cannot wait for this!!
That is absolutely gorgeous!! Congrats on scoring a simply stunning bass!
 
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Phil, it’s beautiful! Saw Marcel posted on Instagram. I’ve had my BNF for a week and I am only now getting to really play it. I’ll post about it soon.

So, it's a good news, bad news kinda day.

The bad news: There's a pretty solid chance I may not have any BN5s in the next couple of weeks. It is what it is and I just gotta deal with it.

The good news: Won't completely be out of the club. I was gonna try to keep it under wraps until I had it, but after seeing some pics, I gotta share...View attachment 3247926 View attachment 3247928

My heart, literally, skipped a beat when I got those pics! I cannot wait for this!!
 
So, it's a good news, bad news kinda day.

The bad news: There's a pretty solid chance I may not have any BN5s in the next couple of weeks. It is what it is and I just gotta deal with it.

The good news: Won't completely be out of the club. I was gonna try to keep it under wraps until I had it, but after seeing some pics, I gotta share...View attachment 3247926 View attachment 3247928

My heart, literally, skipped a beat when I got those pics! I cannot wait for this!!

Might be my favorite blue finish they've done
 
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It's slightly different than what I was expecting, which is not a bad thing. I was expecting an almost black to a deep blue, like this.
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I feel like the blue they did for me is a bit more, I dunno, vibrant?! I feel like I got a 3-tone blue instead of the 2-tone, which makes me even happier!

Yeah, sorta starts with the faded blue on the horn and ends black below the bridge. I really do like it a lot!
 
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