Haha. Gonna try it tonight.
Just took the bass out for a spin at my regular club gig last night. Sounds fantastic but I really need a low B string for Top 40s gigs, acccck.
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Haha. Gonna try it tonight.
Just took the bass out for a spin at my regular club gig last night. Sounds fantastic but I really need a low B string for Top 40s gigs, acccck.
I posted a thread with this question but got no replies. SO I thought I'd repost here for the Sadowsky faithful.
I just picked up a Sadowsky Metro that is very nice but the action is not to my liking. The neck will adjust straight with ease but the upper register is my issue. I have the G string saddle bottomed out and it's close to where I want it but not quite. The only option is to shim the neck. Have any of you ever had a need to do this on your Sadowsky? It's not a big deal, really, I've done it many times but just wasn't expecting to have to on a bass such as this. In fairness to the Sadowsky, most would be perfectly happy with the action as is but I like it low. The fret work on this bass is so good that I know it can go lower with a shim and not cause any fret buzz.
I just picked up a Sadowsky Metro that is very nice but the action is not to my liking. The neck will adjust straight with ease but the upper register is my issue. I have the G string saddle bottomed out and it's close to where I want it but not quite. The only option is to shim the neck. Have any of you ever had a need to do this on your Sadowsky? It's not a big deal, really, I've done it many times but just wasn't expecting to have to on a bass such as this. In fairness to the Sadowsky, most would be perfectly happy with the action as is but I like it low. The fret work on this bass is so good that I know it can go lower with a shim and not cause any fret buzz.
I saw a video with Roger Sadowsky and Mike Tobias talking about set ups at Bass Player Live 2014. (should be on YouTube).
Roger discusses shimming a neck.
IIRC he was not opposed to shimming. Check it out.
Roger discusses shimming a neck.
IIRC he was not opposed to shimming. Check it out.
A shim is fine and easy but even better is having the neck pocket deepened and angled. Mo did that to my RV5 and its a huge upgrade.
Just caught it couple days back too. Ha. Just took a snap of my two basses.
Bass Player LIVE! 2014 Clinics: Bass Set-Up Panel
This one has more information if anybody can sit through it. It's an hour long
Behind The Notes with Roger Sadowsky
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I decided not to keep the bass for various reasons. No offense to anyone but the Metro is not worth the price tag new, IMO. The NYC's are so much better. I may go that direction but will wait a while before I make any more purchases.
That's unfortunate. The two Metros I have owned are two of only four or so basses I ever bought new; and they were both well "worth it." Both were perfect. Different strokes...
It was a fine bass. It just felt like a cheap bass. It's hard to explain. The strings didn't help the tone, I didn't care for them at all. I'm not sure what they were, whatever they use on new one's. I most likely will get an NYC at some point. They just feel like a boutique type of bass. This was not the first Metro I've played but they've all left me with that impression. I was hoping this one would be different because it beautiful.
for little tweaks (the need of a "tiny" shim) just a simple sanding of the neck pocket will suffice…
I owned and worked on several Metros and "not worth the price" would not be my first thought…
Cool. Glad they work for you. For me they are just average. I can totally see why others would like them though.
I owned and worked on several Metros and "not worth the price" would not be my first thought…
I'm not sure I understand this discussion of sanding the neck pocket to make it deeper if the thought was to add a shim effectively making the neck pocket shallower.
Can someone explain?
Can someone explain?
I suppose it's all about changing the exit angle of the neck. Shims might actually raise the neck viz-a-viz the rest of the bass more than you would want, so shaving some of the neck heel or pocket, in some cases, might provide a better result.
Am I nuts?
Am I nuts?
It's all about the angle, baby!
If you change the angle of the pocket with a shim it changes where the neck pocket is in line with the stings bring them lower or higher to the frets at the neck.
P.S. I am not qualified to evaluate your psychological profile.
I guess i will have to. But the price is about $150 for a piece of plastic.It just makes me say REALLY? for a PG? To me its almost like paying $20 for a glass of water.
No matter how tasty the water is.. ya know? I may bite the bullet or just cut one myself from stock materiel...
We only charge $150 when we have to make a pickguard from scratch......our production pickguards (better than anything else you can buy) are $75. If I had the time to make a video of how much work goes into making a pickguard by hand, you would understand the cost. We are not trying to profit on pickguards..
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I've played NYC's.
I've played Metros.
They've seemed the same to me, in terms of quality...
If I needed fancy tops or woods/colors the Metro line didn't offer, I'd get an NYC; but, I don't, so, I've owned Metros...six at this point I think, though just one right now.
I've played Metros.
They've seemed the same to me, in terms of quality...
If I needed fancy tops or woods/colors the Metro line didn't offer, I'd get an NYC; but, I don't, so, I've owned Metros...six at this point I think, though just one right now.
Any individual bass may or may not work for you, no matter where it is made. I have had a lot of sadowskys and its not at all the case that all the NYCs were better than all the metros. In fact a few of the best were metros. Wooden instruments vary.
I do hate the cheaper tuners on metro 5s but thats a very cheap swap.
I do hate the cheaper tuners on metro 5s but thats a very cheap swap.
True enough. An NYC Sadowsky didn't work for me, so I sold it. I suspect that it was because it had a swamp ash body (love my three alder-bodied NYCs).
Fact is, though, wooden instruments vary even within the same species. I've owned identical instruments that sounded surprisingly different.
