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#8,681
narud said:
yeah but any humbucker with two coils could be called a dual coil. theres no qualifier that the coil must cover all the strings. and dimarzios are split.
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Understood, which is what I meant by there's always room for misunderstanding. I guess I should've just said full dual coil or something. And no, not all DiMarzios are split. The Model J's are not, but the Ultra's are, for example. The Model J's are 4 conductor and can be wired series/parallel within each pickup. You can not do that with a split coil like the Ultra, which is only two conductor.
 
#8,682
Vic said:
Understood, which is what I meant by there's always room for misunderstanding. And no, not all DiMarzios are split. The Model J's are not, but the Ultra's are, for example. The Model J's are 4 conductor and can be wired series/parallel within each pickup. You can not do that with a split coil like the Ultra, which is only two conductor.
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model j's are split as are the ultras. ultras are not 2 conductor either and can be wired in series or parallel just like any other 4 conductor humbucker. think about the s1 switch on fender p basses. series/parallel switching on a split coil humbucker.
 
#8,683
narud said:
model j's are split as are the ultras. ultras are not 2 conductor either and can be wired in series or parallel just like any other 4 conductor humbucker. think about the s1 switch on fender p basses. series/parallel switching on a split coil humbucker.
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Good point on the S1 switch on the P, but I don't think they ever did that on a 5 string, which breaks the model, and maybe I should be extra clear here, is I'm talking just about 5 strings.

You can do more with 4 string pickups because of the symmetry, which is why I brought the whole thing up... this is a specific function of the asymmetry of a 5 string split coil humbucker.

Also, I was looking specifically at the 5 string UJ (sorry, again, shoulda' been more specific), which is 2 conductor, and I'm sure it's for that reason.
 
#8,684
Vic said:
Good point on the S1 switch on the P, but I don't think they ever did that on a 5 string, which breaks the model, and maybe I should be extra clear here, is I'm talking just about 5 strings.

You can do more with 4 string pickups because of the symmetry, which is why I brought the whole thing up... this is a specific function of the asymmetry of a 5 string split coil humbucker.

Also, I was looking specifically at the 5 string UJ (sorry, again, shoulda' been more specific), which is 2 conductor, and I'm sure it's for that reason.
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your previous comments though read as if the ability to be wired series/parallel is somehow tied to the fact that the model j's are stacked (which theyre not) and the ultra's are 2 conductor because the are split. the model j's only come in a 4 string pickup as well, so if we're talking about 5's, why are we comparing the two sets?
 
#8,685
narud,
I dug some on this, and decided to call DiMarzio directly to get the final answer because their tech data doesn't spell this out.

Gotta' eat a little crow here on the DiMarzio info, tho I do still stand by my original points regarding split coil designs vs dual full coils.

You're right about all their J style pickups being split, not just their UJ. The reason I was confused about the Model J's is I've looked at my Model J's and they have two full length cores, so I assumed (oops) that it was also two full length coils, which is also why they did the 4 conductor thing for tapping, and also that the 5 string UJ was the only one where they mentioned different strings for different coils. Anyway, despite the dual full length cores in the Model J, it's still a "split" 2+2 config as you said. Sorry.
 
#8,686
narud said:
your previous comments though read as if the ability to be wired series/parallel is somehow tied to the fact that the model j's are stacked (which theyre not) and the ultra's are 2 conductor because the are split. the model j's only come in a 4 string pickup as well, so if we're talking about 5's, why are we comparing the two sets?
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Ok, so if I've been too clunky with my wording to make the point (entirely possible... I'm kinda' tired today), here's what I'm getting at...

When you're talking about humbucking, as well as the quality of results when wiring a pickup internally series or parallel, results are somewhat poorer when the coils are asymmetrical. Not a lot, but somewhat. That's really all I'm trying to say, and how the whole 4 vs 5 string thing came into it.
 
#8,687
Vic said:
Ok, so I couldn't stand it... I had to check who the builder was...

IT'S A DRAGONBASS!!! :D :D :D :D

Yep, that's right, our own TB'er dragonbass built this jewel. As much as it totally doesn't matter from a quality standpoint (Roger's standards take care of that), it's still pretty cool to me. :)
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How do you find out, who built the bass?
Is there some kind of code in the bass?

Mine's number 5392
 
#8,690
Chef said:
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Wow, I still love these photos! :cool:

I need to post my MV4 soon so I can get a number...
 
#8,697
ElMon said:
:eek:

I was told a year or so ago that the anodized pickguard wasn't an option. Glad to see that that has changed!!! My dream Sadowsky is a 5 string version of a 57 Pbass with a J pup in the bridge. I have a feeling knowing that this is now possible will haunt my every waking moment!!!
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IIRC Roger couldn't find a source for the G.A. guard.
That he has found it after a year comes to prove how he cares about us, even to the more insignificant detail, as a piece of plastic with only aesthetic inpact (we can discuss if a GA guard sounds better than a plastic one, who's first? :D).
 

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