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The hum from the J pickup in the PJ5 set has about 1/10th the hum of a single coil. Because one coil is for 2 strings and the other coil is for 3 strings, it does not hum cancel 100% like the 4 string design does. But the hum is only there if you listen for it. I have been making PJ5's for years and I have never had a client find it a problem in the real world.

Roger
 
#8,662
Sadowsky said:
The hum from the J pickup in the PJ5 set has about 1/10th the hum of a single coil. Because one coil is for 2 strings and the other coil is for 3 strings, it does not hum cancel 100% like the 4 string design does. But the hum is only there if you listen for it. I have been making PJ5's for years and I have never had a client find it a problem in the real world.

Roger
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Hum has never been a problem with my VPJ5.
 
#8,663
Sadowsky said:
The hum from the J pickup in the PJ5 set has about 1/10th the hum of a single coil. Because one coil is for 2 strings and the other coil is for 3 strings, it does not hum cancel 100% like the 4 string design does. But the hum is only there if you listen for it. I have been making PJ5's for years and I have never had a client find it a problem in the real world.

Roger
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+1 I never noticed any issue either. I got confused by Vic's post, making it sound like it was something unique to that particular bass or that particular pickup set. Cool.
 
#8,664
KJung said:
+1 I think I got confused. Are the stock Sadowsky HC Dimarzio's 'split coil' also?. If that's the case, I got no hum at all when soloing the bridge pickup with those. No big deal there if that's the case. I wouldn't worry about it.
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DiMarzios are dual coil... at least the Model J's are. Not sure about the Ultra J's but I assumed they were.
 
#8,665
ElMon said:
My PJ5 had the same pickups and I never noticed any hum when soloing the bridge pickup, and I also play in some clubs with interesting wiring from time to time. IME at least. I'd be curious to read your comparison of this ash/maple PJ5 against your alder/Braz RW PJ5. I let go of an alder/rw PJ5 in a pinch, and am looking into getting an ash/maple Metro PJ5 as soon as my MTD sells.
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Again, I don't want to overrate this... it's not at all like solo'ing a SC J. It's only an issue in quiet environments (like the Aviom based worship gig I have, which is essentially like being in a studio), or particularly horrible ones from an electrical environment perspective (like where I'll be tonight).
 
#8,666
svtb15 said:
That odd because my PJ5 is about as quiet as they come..
I have the NP5 in front and the Sadowsky J HC in the rear..

In a really, really bad room i might get very little hum through the J but it would have to be the worst of worst conditions... but it was not so much hum as it was hifreq RF from bad lighting... but otherwise the bass is silent..
The P is dead silent though... are you using excessive treble EQ boosting?

My PJ5 has the Universal route under the PG.. Im thinking of trying a set of SC J one day for the fun of it.. I love the PJ for most of what i need to do.. but a JJ would be a nice change .

Will your bass have the Universal route... if so then all you would need to do is change out the PG and swap away at Pups when you wanted.
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I'm not into that. If I get a PJ, it's because I want the P pickup, and I'm not gonna' be swapping pickups back and forth in a bass.
 
#8,667
Sadowsky said:
The hum from the J pickup in the PJ5 set has about 1/10th the hum of a single coil. Because one coil is for 2 strings and the other coil is for 3 strings, it does not hum cancel 100% like the 4 string design does. But the hum is only there if you listen for it. I have been making PJ5's for years and I have never had a client find it a problem in the real world.

Roger
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Yeah, I didn't mean to make it sound like a bigger deal than it was... just that, unlike a JJ5, it's something that's always there. That's the only reason I brought it up, since I was drawing a comparison between those two. Further, again, it's also limited to an odd number of strings and a split coil design. Pretty specific stuff. A 4 banger would be dead silent. Also, as you know, there are environments where even SC's are pretty much quiet.
 
#8,669
ElMon said:
So, alder/rw PJ5 vs ash/maple PJ5: your impressions kind sir!
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Well, like most Sadowsky basses, there's not a night/day diff between them, but as you'd suspect, the alder/rw combo, especially with the Brazilian board, is bigger and warmer sounding, a bit sweeter of a high end, closer to a more classic tone, whereas the ash/maple one is more aggressive, a bit crisper on the high end, and a little tighter in the low end, a little more of a modern edge. IMHO pretty typical stuff for those wood combo diffs.
 
#8,670
Vic said:
Well, like most Sadowsky basses, there's not a night/day diff between them, but as you'd suspect, the alder/rw combo, especially with the Brazilian board, is bigger and warmer sounding, a bit sweeter of a high end, closer to a more classic tone, whereas the ash/maple one is more aggressive, a bit crisper on the high end, and a little tighter in the low end, a little more of a modern edge. IMHO pretty typical stuff for those wood combo diffs.
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That's what I thought, but wanted to have it confirmed. I'm curious also if the B string clarity improved at all.
 
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ElMon said:
That's what I thought, but wanted to have it confirmed. I'm curious also if the B string clarity improved at all.
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I'd say maybe "focus", yeah, but not necessarily "clarity" (because there's definitely no lack of clarity on any Sadowsky I've played). The reason I say this is due to the more controlled low end with ash/maple to my ears. The alder/rw spec is probably the "biggest" sound I've heard in a Sadowsky. That one I just sold really impressed me in that way.
 
#8,672
Vic said:
BTW, we officially have a new member to the Sadowsky family, tho I'll let him introduce himself as he wishes. Initial word is, he's pretty darn stoked tho. :)
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"darned stoked" is right! this girl is the bomb-digity!

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I'm in!
 
#8,676
Ok, so I couldn't stand it... I had to check who the builder was...

IT'S A DRAGONBASS!!! :D :D :D :D

Yep, that's right, our own TB'er dragonbass built this jewel. As much as it totally doesn't matter from a quality standpoint (Roger's standards take care of that), it's still pretty cool to me. :)
 
#8,679
narud said:
im curious as to what you're referring to as a dual coil. afaik, the majority of humbucking jazz pickups are either split coils or stacked. rarely do you see a true narrow aperture dual coil in a j housing.
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Stacked and dual coil are the same thing. IMHO, dual coil is just a bit more clear to use as a description because it (at least to me) makes it obvious that you have two coils that both cover all the pole pieces, where stacked is just one particular configuration of a dual coil pickup. I suppose there's always room for a misunderstanding, but that's what I mean at least.
 

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