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Club Sadowsky!!!

My curve is a mess too, Vic. The last half-dozen Metros I've played haven't done a thing for me...and two of 'em would've been bought if they had. I think you're spot-on, and as I often forget, weight is a much bigger factor for most folks than it is for me. My only concern with the chambering is what effect it has on the low end. A couple of the NYC models I've played seem to require a lot of bass boost. In any case, it's not as if I get to play a lot of these things, so definitely factor in my very small sample size. My research findings, as is often the case, are based on generalizations. :D
 
Basically looking at 9 lbs vs 7.7 for a 5-string JJ. The NYC has a nice quilt but that isn't a must-have for me. I do prefer the black hardware and no-pickguard of the NYC but like a 59 burst. I *love* my RV5PJ - total keeper. Looking now for a JJ ash/maple companion. My PJ is a little over 9lbs and isn't "heavy" but it weighs more than my Zon. Not the end of the world but I did feel it last gig (which admittedly was 4+ hours of playing time).
Well, first off, only idiots waste their money on quilt tops for a J bass...
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But seriously tho, man, if all you need is a '59 burst ash/maple JJ5, I'd really try the Metro first, and I think even though the spec on the Sadowsky site indicates they may generally hover around 10 pounds, I think it's closer to 9 these days. My ash/maple Metro PJ5 is actually 8.8 pounds. I'm generally fairly sensitive to weight, but as long as it doesn't get over 9 pounds, I'm good to go. I'd even go so far as to say, as much as I love the lighter basses, 8-9 pounds is about perfect for a JJ/PJ bass. My newest NYC is a chambered JJ5 and it's over 8 pounds. Not heavy at all, but not as stupid light as some of them are, either.

Just make the weight part of your purchase criteria. Ask the dealer(s) to weigh them first, and if you're already looking at a 9 pounder that's everything you want, I'd say that's definitely worth an eval.
 
So now the quandry - Metro MV5 or spend another $1500 for a NYC. So is the 1.3 lbs lighter worth the money is the question...

as much as i prefer a metro over any other super jazz brand, the nyc is a whole other class.

i have yet to pickup my nyc, and think, "shoulda just gotten a metro"... never...

and whenever i think about getting another sadowsky, which is every 10 min, its usually for an nyc.
 
Just that, either I've had really great luck with NYC's or not so good luck with Metros, because at least for me, the NYC's consistently felt and sounded noticeably better. This last PJ upset my personal stats and threw the grading curve off though. :)

I don't need a NYC. The Metro's seem just fine for me and my non-existent budget.

That is the magic of the Avalon.

I feel that you are making the right decision. I would not sell that RV-4. It seems like you are thrilled with the playability and tone, it has a very unique color that is quite rare besides being plain out cool. It just seems like a winner on all accounts.

I'm not sure I'd not consider at least an MJ or a PJ to add to the arsenal. You've owned an M5-24, right?

Yeah, the Sea Foam Green RV-4 has way to much mojo to sell. I did debate a PJ. I sometimes use the neck pup on the RV4 to get a "P" sound for some of the horn band stuff so a PJ might be cool. I did have an M5-24 that I traded for the RV-4 because I thought that the M5-24 was just a little too modern to be my only bass. There's also a nice Oly White MV-5 in the TB classifieds that would be a great bass I'm sure.

Just not sure which way to go.
 
Hey guys. I've been using my Sadowsky NYC ash/maple vintage with Sadowsky single coils (I love this bass and that particular Sadowsky spec) as my 'reference' instrument for posting clips of various LDS cabs over in the amp section of the site (I live close to the LDS shop).

FYI, here is a clip of the Sadowsky through what I consider a relatively pure, 'studio monitor' type rig (a 'Greenboy inspired' three way LDS 212/6/tweeter cab driven by the Puma500). My gigging tone is a bit more snarly and grindy, but similar to the 12/6 clip I put up a while back, this shows 'another side' to the classic Sadowsky J tone. A bit warmer, fatter and smoother to my ear. I dig it.

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Hey guys. I've been using my Sadowsky NYC ash/maple vintage with Sadowsky single coils (I love this bass and that particular Sadowsky spec) as my 'reference' instrument for posting clips of various LDS cabs over in the amp section of the site (I live close to the LDS shop).

FYI, here is a clip of the Sadowsky through what I consider a relatively pure, 'studio monitor' type rig (a 'Greenboy inspired' three way LDS 212/6/tweeter cab driven by the Puma500). My gigging tone is a bit more snarly and grindy, but similar to the 12/6 clip I put up a while back, this shows 'another side' to the classic Sadowsky J tone. A bit warmer, fatter and smoother to my ear. I dig it.

In one word: FAT. This clip comes to prove that you can tame/warm up the ash/maple combo. Thanks for posting, Ken.
 
Nice tone, same specs as my NYC Sadowsky.
Nice little slap thing too. :)

Thanks guys. It's a great spec for these basses. You can get close to the alder/RW thing using the VTC (or a more mellow rig), but it can just snarl and grind with a more aggressive rig (like the TC RH450/BergAE410 I typically gig with when I use this bass). I really dig the Sadowsky Blue Label Steels also... nice and present in the upper mids/lower treble versus the pure sizzle of some other SS rounds, and a nice tight tension/feel that is great for digging in. They last a long time also. Roger did a nice job spec'ing these.

My slap chops:D.. well.... not much call for that style any more. Mostly 'noodlin at home' for me at this point. However, it's a nice way to really hear the nature of the top end of a cab and also the low end capability tested by those strong transients, so I typically throw in a few seconds of wankin':D Thanks though:)
 
Hey guys. I've been using my Sadowsky NYC ash/maple vintage with Sadowsky single coils (I love this bass and that particular Sadowsky spec) as my 'reference' instrument for posting clips of various LDS cabs over in the amp section of the site (I live close to the LDS shop).

FYI, here is a clip of the Sadowsky through what I consider a relatively pure, 'studio monitor' type rig (a 'Greenboy inspired' three way LDS 212/6/tweeter cab driven by the Puma500). My gigging tone is a bit more snarly and grindy, but similar to the 12/6 clip I put up a while back, this shows 'another side' to the classic Sadowsky J tone. A bit warmer, fatter and smoother to my ear. I dig it.

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great sounding rig! is the cab 4ohms? i think i heard you say being driven at 4ohms by the puma.
 
Well, I suppose I joined the idiots club.

Wait, I forgot...I'm a charter member!
I got your charter, and I'll raise you I'm the founding member. :D

Hold on... I think I feel a TB thread coming on... The official International Dysfunctional Idiots Of Talkbass club (IDIOT for short). :D

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Bursting with caramel goodness...
Wait a minute, are you saying you just ordered this beauty? Holy crap dude, NICE!
 
yeah, I'm insane and an idiot. It's a nice one-two punch. I had a Metro on order, but I like the idea of less weight and perhaps some NYC mojo. If I had my druthers I'd probably go straight ash and 59 burst, but the top on this is beautiful - looks like I could dive in and go swimming in it. Plus I have 59 burst on the PJ so maybe something a little different this time. I have flame Koa on the Zon...now just need a spalted maple Rob Allen :-p