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Club Sadowsky!!!

#15,281
smeet said:
I actually had chromes on the bass for almost a year. I really liked them (and they sure have fundamental!), but I missed the roundwound character after a while. I'm comparing the fundamental on this bass to that on other basses with the same strings, and the harmonic balance on each note seems tilted toward the higher harmonics, just a touch, but enough that it sometimes doesn't feel quite as solid or punchy as I would like.
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May I suggest trying Thamastik Infeld Superalloy's. These fixed my need for more fundamental with my Zon Sonus Custom. If you like super bright steels, these won't be for you, but if you like warm nickles with great balance I can highly recommend these.
 
#15,282
Just purchased the uv70mb4 model and can`t wait for it to arrive, used to playing a 24 fret bass so it might take a bit of adjusting especially since on one of the tunes my band play I use the 24th fret on the G-string. I`ll adjust the tuning to suit though cos it`s beautiful! Could someone let me know what each control knob is though as there`s limited information about these wonderful creatures?

Will post pic as soon as it arrives!
 
#15,283
Rodders said:
Just purchased the uv70mb4 model and can`t wait for it to arrive, used to playing a 24 fret bass so it might take a bit of adjusting especially since on one of the tunes my band play I use the 24th fret on the G-string. I`ll adjust the tuning to suit though cos it`s beautiful! Could someone let me know what each control knob is though as there`s limited information about these wonderful creatures?

Will post pic as soon as it arrives!
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Just play it an octave down... no one will know:D

Volume, blend, passive tone control (with passive bypass), stacked boost only bass/treble... so 'flat' is all the way off (a little goes a LONG way).

Wonderful preamp, wonderful bass... enjoy!
 
#15,284
DrPieZon said:
May I suggest trying Thamastik Infeld Superalloy's. These fixed my need for more fundamental with my Zon Sonus Custom. If you like super bright steels, these won't be for you, but if you like warm nickles with great balance I can highly recommend these.
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I do like bright strings, not glassy, but on occasion I like to get a nice grindy sound. So far on this bass I've tried Steel LoRiders, HiBeams, Chromes, DDTs and maybe some others. Each of these have brought out characteristics I liked and lacked something else. I have a set of Circle K's that I'll throw on next. What I would really like is something that sounds like the HiBeams but with a thicker fundamental. With all this finagling I still wonder if I am fighting the innate sound of this instrument. It does sound great, just not quite what I hear in my head.
 
#15,286
Rodders said:
Thanks KJung, much help! I`m so excited like a kid at christmas!
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I posted a little clip a page or so back (it is the second clip that is listed on my Youtube channel accessed by the link in my signature) that goes through the preamp operation. It's not a UV and has single coil pickups, but there is quite a consistency to the tone of the Sadowsky basses, so you might get a kick out of it while you are waiting.
 
#15,287
Rodders said:
Thanks KJung, much help! I`m so excited like a kid at christmas!
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BTW, info on knob layout, definitions, wiring, etc, are all here:

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They're even PDF files, so they print out really nice.

FYI, and major congrats on your new purchase!. :)
 
#15,288
BartmanPDX said:
I play mostly rock, so I'm a roundwound guy, but I've had flats on my Revs and Dark Star P now and then. It's a kind of cool tone for some things (blues, etc.), IMO, and I don't mind the slippery feel all that much.

I've never tried them on a Sadowsky though. It might be interesting to try some on my PJ some day.

I generally wouldn't do a whole gig with flats though. I prefer the aggressive tone of rounds for rock, and with the band I'm in, rounds are a better choice. But I have played most of a set on flats once in a while. I wouldn't play my Rob Allen for a full set on a gig either.
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I tried flats for many years and always ended up going back to rounds after a couple of weeks, but I can't imagine myself without a bass with flats, in fact, I rarely play rounds anymore.
 
#15,289
Just came accross this pic of my Quilt Standard 5

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Thought I would share :)
 
#15,290
KJung said:
Interesting. I'm clueless regarding 4 strings.... always thought that the 19mm spacing on 5 strings was meant to match the standard spacing on Fender 4 strings. Who knew! Most of the info on the web states .75", which is 19mm for 4 string Fender replacement bridges, etc.

Fender 4 string bridges are described as 2 1/4". So, divide that by three and you get .75 or 19mm spacing. That's why I always thought that Roger's 20mm was 'wider than vintage'. Again, not a 4 string guy, so not sure if there are different ways to measure this stuff.
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Standard Fender spacing is 3/4" or 19mm. But this does not align the strings well with pole pieces on the pickups. So I went with 20 mm to improve the alignment with the strings and the pickups.

I think we have had 3 people over the last 10 years who felt the difference and I have 19mm bridges for anyone who needs them.

Roger
 
#15,291
Sadowsky said:
Standard Fender spacing is 3/4" or 19mm. But this does not align the strings well with pole pieces on the pickups. So I went with 20 mm to improve the alignment with the strings and the pickups.

I think we have had 3 people over the last 10 years who felt the difference and I have 19mm bridges for anyone who needs them.

Roger
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Makes sense. Yeah, 1mm is not much, although the Fodera 6 strings and that Yamaha Patitucci 6 string with 20mm spacing (I think... it is WIDE) is really something when you add those two extra strings. Whew. I feel like an 8 year old trying to play those things. With a 4 string, I would think it is, as you say, pretty subtle.

I think Tal is using 19mm, right? Ah well... she's a girl anyway... she needs to man up to 20:D
 
#15,292
I love to favour the bridge pup for a tight, quick, fingerstyle "Jaco burpy tone" and was wondering if anybody could advise whether the vintage/standard models would achieve this better or should I be looking at a UV70 instead ?

I read that favouring the bridge pup on a UV70 can sound a little thin compared to the vintage/std. Is this correct ??
But I've also heard that the vintage/std is not as tight and punchy as the UV70 ??

Any help and insight would be really appreciated.
 
#15,293
MG Bass said:
I love to favour the bridge pup for a tight, quick, fingerstyle "Jaco burpy tone" and was wondering if anybody could advise whether the vintage/standard models would achieve this better or should I be looking at a UV70 instead ?

I read that favouring the bridge pup on a UV70 can sound a little thin compared to the vintage/std. Is this correct ??
But I've also heard that the vintage/std is not as tight and punchy as the UV70 ??

Any help and insight would be really appreciated.
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The burp is all about 60's pickup position IMO. MVMS or RV/RS for you:) If you can get the more mid-punchy single coils installed, all the better for that tone.
 
#15,294
Vic said:
WOW!

I generally don't like flats much, BUT, every time I play them at a gig, I'm pleasantly surprised, and the super slickery feel is pretty cool. :) It's when I play them solo/at home that I can't stand how "dead" they seem.

I'm gonna' be getting some new Sadowsky strings in soon, and I'm gonna' definitely get at least one set of flats to put on my PJ5. If nothing else, there's just something really cool about a P style bass with flats on it. Old school funky... really cool.
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I'm sure going to look forward to the PJ5 w/ flats REVIEW from you Vic. I KNOW you'll be objective.
Thanks .
B.

EDIT: I'm just going to make a quick point here & then I'll put it to bed.
I think that one has to consider that to make flats sound GOOD, You have to get the notes to POP. You are dealing w/ a quicker note decay. Any accomplished flatwound player (like Pino for instance) has cultivated a technique to achieve that end. This also involves extra care in damping & any mis-fret will result in "rasping" because the footprint on the fret is much larger than w/ rounds. Rounds are more "forgiving" in that regard.
 
#15,296
P. Bass said:
Just to show you how much I ALSO absolutely LOVE a Sad.w/rounds, here is my all time favourite file of such.
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Check out "BASSically speaking"
B.
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+1 Really nice... kind of the 'rock' roundwound sound versus the 'funk roundwound sound'. Joey just picked up a Genz Benz endorsement. That line of amps and cabs fits that 'bright and tight' really well. I'd love to hear him live... Sadowsky, a couple of those big uber 410's and the Shuttle Max 12... nice!
 
#15,297
P. Bass said:
Just to show you how much I ALSO absolutely LOVE a Sad.w/rounds, here is my all time favourite file of such.
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B.
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Wow, Thank you very much. :D

KJung said:
+1 Really nice... kind of the 'rock' roundwound sound versus the 'funk roundwound sound'. Joey just picked up a Genz Benz endorsement. That line of amps and cabs fits that 'bright and tight' really well. I'd love to hear him live... Sadowsky, a couple of those big uber 410's and the Shuttle Max 12... nice!
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Actually, I am going for the Uber 410/212 stack! I got a MV4-WL on its way as well. I cant wait to hear that through this rig!

Thank you both for the kind words! :D
 
#15,299
KJung said:
The burp is all about 60's pickup position IMO. MVMS or RV/RS for you:) If you can get the more mid-punchy single coils installed, all the better for that tone.
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Thanks KJ.

What combination should I be looking at Ash/Maple or ALD/Rosewd.

I've heard that ash/maple is easier to go towards ald/rswd but harder for ald/rswd to go towards ash/maple ??

So would this mean ash/maple is a more versatile combo ??
 

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