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Club Sadowsky!!!

#17,521
ElMon said:
As long as we're still talking Pbasses, here's a comparison I did between my Pre CBS 62' Pbass and my brand new alder/braz rw PJ5, both run passive and strung with D'Addario Chromes:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705567

Enjoy!!!
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Hey Clark,
Thanks a bunch for your time & effort. That was very enjoyable.
For what it's worth, I hear a much "drier" tone w/ the '62 P. Now it's that dryness that makes P w/flats so endearing to traditionalist P players. I love that sound because that's what I grew up with. BUT - I have been playing P w/ a Sadowsky o/b pre for so long now that I NOW find that dryness lacking. What I mean is that I would sooner have what the Sadowsky can provide. I'll NEVER lose my love for the vintage P tone. Your new P/J has a rich resonance in it's tonal character that is what I call "ear melting"! (specifically finger style). Some of that is in the rosewood sweetness but I know for a fact that the build has a whole lot to do with it. You have yourself a couple of keepers there man! Looking forward to the next chapter.
B.
 
#17,522
P. Bass said:
Hey Clark,
Thanks a bunch for your time & effort. That was very enjoyable.
For what it's worth, I hear a much "drier" tone w/ the '62 P. Now it's that dryness that makes P w/flats so endearing to traditionalist P players. I love that sound because that's what I grew up with. BUT - I have been playing P w/ a Sadowsky o/b pre for so long now that I NOW find that dryness lacking. What I mean is that I would sooner have what the Sadowsky can provide. I'll NEVER lose my love for the vintage P tone. Your new P/J has a rich resonance in it's tonal character that is what I call "ear melting"! (specifically finger style). Some of that is in the rosewood sweetness but I know for a fact that the build has a whole lot to do with it. You have yourself a couple of keepers there man! Looking forward to the next chapter.
B.
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:D

Thanks Eddie!!! There is definitely something to be said for a 48year old hunk of wood. Has a certain 'it' factor that I can't exactly put into words. Another interesting thing is that with two basses of similar scale length/wood/strings and string tension, the Chromes on the 62' had a tighter feel whereas the Sadowsky felt more rubber-band like. Variance in strings perhaps? Or just goes to show you that NO two pieces of wood are exactly the same. This is my second NYC PJ5 in alder/brazilian rosewood and I have to say that this one SMOKES the other.

I attribute this to the anodized gold guard, which I hear tell Roger makes himself, alone after everyone has left the shop, when he can safely and unobstructed practice an ancient form of alchemy whereas he turns aluminum into ACTUAL gold. Not only that, but this process gives a quantifiable boost to the low mid region of the instrument that would NOT be present with a normal pickguard.
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#17,523
Sadowsky said:
Thats not the feedback I get from most of my clients. First of all, I would not say it "thins out" the bass strings.....It "tightens up" the bass strings, as you later said.
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Well, I was probably oversimplifying to make my statement sound cute. But I think it's clear in both cases the thing your doing is moving the pickup back towards where the string doesn't move around as much, which reduces the big low end component. I think we essentially agree.

Most of my reverse P clients say the bass still sounds like a "P" when they are just on the P pickup.
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Interesting. This tells me the P sound is a lot more about the series wound pickup and it's voicing than it is the coil positions.

The only thing I think that suffers a bit on a PJ, regardless of the P being standard or reverse, is the "slap" sound.
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Also interesting. Personally, I think the slap tone is a bit "sweeter" on the PJ... maybe a bit more "modern" sounding, if that makes sense. Matter of taste I guess, but I really like it... maybe even a bit more than a JJ.
 
#17,524
Sadowsky said:
The only thing I think that suffers a bit on a PJ, regardless of the P being standard or reverse, is the "slap" sound.

R
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big +1.

I greatly prefer the slap tone on my single coiled J over my PJ. That's why I have flats on the PJ4 and Blue nickels on the J4. I even have some foam under the strings and when I hear people saying that a Sadowsky can't sound like a vintage Fender I can't really understand what they mean.
 
#17,526
I'd like to find out who made my bass? No: 5121

5121_full_lg.jpg


which one of the talented bunch at Sadowsky put this together?

ive checked the control plate on the back and it says june 2008 but there's no name on it?

can Rob or Roger help me out? :)
 
#17,527
For what it's worth i too like the slap tone of a PJ5 more than a JJ model. But to me the JJ setup in a Sadowsky yields a more 'classic', slightly scooped slap tone that is more similar to a Marcus Miller sound. I wouldn't mind having another ash/maple MV5 with rounds SOLELY to slap on.
 
#17,528
ElMon said:
As long as we're still talking Pbasses, here's a comparison I did between my Pre CBS 62' Pbass and my brand new alder/braz rw PJ5, both run passive and strung with D'Addario Chromes:

http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=705567

Enjoy!!!
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Again, great review Elmon! I will say that after listening I can definitely hear a subtle difference, but could not imagine anyone being able to pick it out in a full band context. FWIW I like the Sadowsky tone a bit more.
 
#17,529
Kinda off the subject of the P - PJ thing here but.......

After the Rangers beat the Yanks last night I switched over to Leno
just in time to catch Ricky rippin' it up on a hot Blue Standard 4 with maple neck!!

Couldn't find any pics of him playing it but he was slappin' up a storm and it sounded great!!! :bassist:
 
#17,530
CHRISDABASS said:
I'd like to find out who made my bass? No: 5121

5121_full_lg.jpg


which one of the talented bunch at Sadowsky put this together?

ive checked the control plate on the back and it says june 2008 but there's no name on it?

can Rob or Roger help me out? :)
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5121 was built by Mark Dobbyn who moved on over a year ago.

Roger
 
#17,531
Regarding P versus reverse P: in the grand scheme of things they're similar enough, but I can hear a distinct difference... probably because I've mostly been a P-only guy for decades. With a standard P, the lower strings more depth/warmth, while the D and G "sing" a little more. A reverse P is more balanced, which some find to be an advantage, but I definitely prefer standard.

Others have commented on PJ versus reverse PJ, particularly for slap. IMO both are cool: with standard you get more thump on the low strings, with reverse you get a deeper pop on the D and G.
 
#17,540
KUNGfuSHERIFF said:
So it's that light, huh?

My wife needs a car. My wife needs a car. My wife needs a car. My wife needs...
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I've called on several basses that are/were listed on their website only to be told that the bass was sold. Not sure about now but it seemed that the website was just for historical reference of basses that they had in some period of time.

So most likely that WL is already gone.
 

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