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Club Sadowsky!!!

#18,641
Chasarms said:
BTW, whoever bought #5689 needs to 'fess up. I want dirty details and lots of suggestive photos, pronto.
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+1!!

Sadly, I fear they're not a TB'er tho... otherwise I'd think they'd have already done so. Could be "good" for them, on the other hand, to not be busy on a web forum and practicing/playing instead... ;) :D
 
#18,643
Chasarms said:
Finally. My personal issues are solved. I have been diagnosed.

I have G.A.S.

Oh no, it's not what you think. It's the other G.A.S.

"Gank Aversion Syndrome."
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:D The growl/grind is the defining difference to me between the alder/RW/60's and ash/maple/70's specs, with many alder/RW/60's basses having a bit more character and grunt and growl in the low mids, and a more sweet airy treble response, and the ash/maple spec being bigger and more open down low, but that somewhat harsh, bright upper mid grind that tends to mask the upper treble a bit.

Both sound great. Hard to dial in grind in an alder/RW/60's model, and hard to dial in that warm growl with the ash/maple/70's spec.

That being said:D, the relatively unusual ash/maple with 60's pickup positon Sadowsky Vintage spec gives me both grind and growl... IMO, best of all worlds for a one instrument solution (for a modern J tone anyway). I can easily dial out that upper mid brightness woth most upper mid controls on many amps, and that spec growls like crazy.

I love that spec!
 
#18,644
KJung said:
:D The growl/grind is the defining difference to me between the alder/RW/60's and ash/maple/70's specs, with many alder/RW/60's basses having a bit more character and grunt and growl in the low mids, and a more sweet airy treble response, and the ash/maple spec being bigger and more open down low, but that somewhat harsh, bright upper mid grind that tends to mask the upper treble a bit.

Both sound great. Hard to dial in grind in an alder/RW/60's model, and hard to dial in that warm growl with the ash/maple/70's spec.

That being said:D, the relatively unusual ash/maple with 60's pickup positon Sadowsky Vintage spec gives me both grind and growl... IMO, best of all worlds for a one instrument solution (for a modern J tone anyway). I can easily dial out that upper mid brightness woth most upper mid controls on many amps, and that spec growls like crazy.

I love that spec!
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How do you think having the series P PU in the neck position relates to this behavior? There's no question my new Metro PJ has a smoother, warmer, more "puffy" tone than the ash/maple NYC I had.

I'm considering how much of it has to do with the wood combo and how much of it has to do the the fact that the neck PUs are not reversed. I did a bit experimenting with the NYC, and there was no question that the standard position gave a lot more "puff" than the reversed.
 
#18,645
Chasarms said:
How do you think having the series P PU in the neck position relates to this behavior? There's no question my new Metro PJ has a smoother, warmer, more "puffy" tone than the ash/maple NYC I had.

I'm considering how much of it has to do with the wood combo and how much of it has to do the the fact that the neck PUs are not reversed. I did a bit experimenting with the NYC, and there was no question that the standard position gave a lot more "puff" than the reversed.
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I'm pretty clueless on the PJ thing, so can't really comment. However, one thing the PJ requires is a HC J pickup, and that alone will smooth the upper mids a bit more than the single coils.
 
#18,646
Chasarms said:
How do you think having the series P PU in the neck position relates to this behavior? There's no question my new Metro PJ has a smoother, warmer, more "puffy" tone than the ash/maple NYC I had.

I'm considering how much of it has to do with the wood combo and how much of it has to do the the fact that the neck PUs are not reversed. I did a bit experimenting with the NYC, and there was no question that the standard position gave a lot more "puff" than the reversed.
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The simple, tho maybe not so interesting answer is, "both". I literally went from pretty much one extreme to the other, since in my case it was an NYC with a brazilian board, to an ash/maple model... and I did try a chambered as well as the solid body I currently own, BUT, I have not yet tried a reverse P.

That P pickup is gonna' have more emphasis towards the low end, so regardless of woods, it's going to essentially make it sound a bit "sweeter" in that "gank" area, which is what gives it that more generally "modern" tone when blended. I personally like the sweeter slap tone a bit more with the alder/rosewood spec, and also on a PJ (even ash/maple on a PJ, which also may help answer your question), but since I play fingerstyle most of the time, ash/maple is just "home base" for me. Just works. And if I want to sweeten up the slap tone, a drop of the VTC, while not duplicating the alder/rosewod thing, does a perfectly fine job of it for me.

Hope this helps.
 
#18,647
KJung said:
I'm pretty clueless on the PJ thing, so can't really comment. However, one thing the PJ requires is a HC J pickup, and that alone will smooth the upper mids a bit more than the single coils.
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Forgot to add that to my comment, but I'm also comparing an HC J too, so while VERY true for a JJ/SC vs a PJ/HC, it's even still true for a JJ/HC compared to that same PJ/HC. IMHO/IME, anyway.
 
#18,648
Chasarms said:
How do you think having the series P PU in the neck position relates to this behavior? There's no question my new Metro PJ has a smoother, warmer, more "puffy" tone than the ash/maple NYC I had.

I'm considering how much of it has to do with the wood combo and how much of it has to do the the fact that the neck PUs are not reversed. I did a bit experimenting with the NYC, and there was no question that the standard position gave a lot more "puff" than the reversed.
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Awe hell, now we have "puffy" tossed into the mix........:hiding:
 
#18,657
lgrankin said:
Ken, you have a gift and it should be recognized! Your words combined with your youtube clips go a very long way.
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I'm sure sometimes they go a very long way in making some TBer's want to tear their hair out and run through the streets screaming 'dude, it's just bass':p

But, thanks! I love this stuff, and do enjoy trying to communicate some of this rather subtle stuff that can still be the difference between 'loving' a bass and 'selling' a bass:D
 
#18,658
BluesyCat said:
I have fallen behind an cannot keep up! Is there a new language being born here? Sadowskyish? Someone create a stickie!!
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It's actually not that hard. :)

The key to Junganese is to understand it's simply founded in Onomatopoeia, and that he simply makes up words where real ones don't exist to serve. You get that down, and you can read his speak (and to some extent mine, I suppose) now and forever without any probs. :)
 
#18,659
Vic said:
It's actually not that hard. :)

The key to Junganese is to understand it's simply founded in Onomatopoeia, and that he simply makes up words where real ones don't exist to serve. You get that down, and you can read his speak (and to some extent mine, I suppose) now and forever without any probs. :)
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you see, it works and is already beginning to take TB by storm... Junganese...
 

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