• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Club Sandberg (part 2)

Few questions about California Oliver Riedel and Sandberg Configurator:

Can Anyone confirm that California Oliver Riedel ''Special Hardcore Aged'' finish implies Thermo Treatment?

There is a little doubt for me regarding Aged levels and Thermo Treatment in the latest configurator.
At the ''old'' configurator Soft and Hardcore aged levels did not include Thermo neither the Vibro treatment.
Hardcore Reserve level included only Thermo, and Masterpiece level included both Thermo and Vibro treatment (next to the visual differences).

At the ''new'' configurator, You can add roasted option for the neck next to the Aged level You first need to choose. So if I choose Hardcore Reserve or Masterpiece (that should include Thermo treatment), why I can also add the ''roasted'' option for the neck (it also raise the price)?

Before I ordered my TM4 Hardcore reserve in 2019 I contacted Sandberg and got the email from Holger, who answered to my question and said that in Thermo treatment (at that time) all the wood for a bass is roasted, Neck, fingerboard and body wood. That puts me in a quandary!

So my questions again:

What does ''Special Hardcore Aged'' means in relation to the California Oliver Riedel?
Does California Oliver Riedel implies Thermo Treatment?
Why ''Roasted'' option is available in configurator even if Hardoce Reserved or Masterpiece is first choosen?

Thank You very much :).
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Jughead6
Hello friends.

I'm very interested in a custom build.

It would be a California VS Passive, Virgin White, matching headstock.

I am leaning towards the soft relic. I don't want the bass to look like new, but I don't want a heavy relic, either.

In the configurator there are four options, are they from the softer to the heavier relicing? Because the names don't help to clear that out.


Also, anybody recommend a good dealer in the EU? I buy a lot from Thomann, do they accept custom quotes?


How long does the build take?



Thank you.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jughead6
Few questions about California Oliver Riedel and Sandberg Configurator:

Can Anyone confirm that California Oliver Riedel ''Special Hardcore Aged'' finish implies Thermo Treatment?

There is a little doubt for me regarding Aged levels and Thermo Treatment in the latest configurator.
At the ''old'' configurator Soft and Hardcore aged levels did not include Thermo neither the Vibro treatment.
Hardcore Reserve level included only Thermo, and Masterpiece level included both Thermo and Vibro treatment (next to the visual differences).

At the ''new'' configurator, You can add roasted option for the neck next to the Aged level You first need to choose. So if I choose Hardcore Reserve or Masterpiece (that should include Thermo treatment), why I can also add the ''roasted'' option for the neck (it also raise the price)?

Before I ordered my TM4 Hardcore reserve in 2019 I contacted Sandberg and got the email from Holger, who answered to my question and said that in Thermo treatment (at that time) all the wood for a bass is roasted, Neck, fingerboard and body wood. That puts me in a quandary!

So my questions again:

What does ''Special Hardcore Aged'' means in relation to the California Oliver Riedel?
Does California Oliver Riedel implies Thermo Treatment?
Why ''Roasted'' option is available in configurator even if Hardoce Reserved or Masterpiece is first choosen?

Thank You very much :).
Good question... interested to hear the answer.
 
  • Like
Reactions: _Obra_
Hello friends.

I'm very interested in a custom build.

It would be a California VS Passive, Virgin White, matching headstock.

I am leaning towards the soft relic. I don't want the bass to look like new, but I don't want a heavy relic, either.

In the configurator there are four options, are they from the softer to the heavier relicing? Because the names don't help to clear that out.


Also, anybody recommend a good dealer in the EU? I buy a lot from Thomann, do they accept custom quotes?


How long does the build take?



Thank you.
Hello,

Yes, you can ask a quote to Thomann for a custom build.

Last time I asked, I was quoted a 10 months building time.
;)
 
  • Like
Reactions: TB24 and J_Bass
I'm sure it would sound awesome. What bass are you playing now? What amplifier are you using? Any pedals? The whole chain will define your sound.

I am playing a Rickenbacker 4003 with Ampeg SVT 1977 with 810 cab for this particular set list of Metallica. The signal goes through my pedalboard where it is split to keep my low end. I am using Opti-FET compressor, chorus, and fuzz and overdrive pedals. It sounds awesome but the Rickenbacker is heavy weight. So I was trying to replace it with a light weight Reverend Thundergun that is loaded with split coil precision and humbucker pickups. I have found that it did not cut enough in the mix being a bit muddy, although this bass can take the fuzz/OD effects remarkably. So that is why I thought the Sandberg Oliver Riedel could be the solution for it’s low weight, and hope it will take nicely the fuzz/OD effects without being muddy. Am I right ?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Jughead6
I am playing a Rickenbacker 4003 with Ampeg SVT 1977 with 810 cab for this particular set list of Metallica. The signal goes through my pedalboard where it is split to keep my low end. I am using Opti-FET compressor, chorus, and fuzz and overdrive pedals. It sounds awesome but the Rickenbacker is heavy weight. So I was trying to replace it with a light weight Reverend Thundergun that is loaded with split coil precision and humbucker pickups. I have found that it did not cut enough in the mix being a bit muddy, although this bass can take the fuzz/OD effects remarkably. So that is why I thought the Sandberg Oliver Riedel could be the solution for it’s low weight, and hope it will take nicely the fuzz/OD effects without being muddy. Am I right ?
I don't miss my Rickenbacker 4003 tone with my passive TT4. I just dont. I think my TT4 is just as punchy and feels twice as good in my hands
 
I am playing a Rickenbacker 4003 with Ampeg SVT 1977 with 810 cab for this particular set list of Metallica. The signal goes through my pedalboard where it is split to keep my low end. I am using Opti-FET compressor, chorus, and fuzz and overdrive pedals. It sounds awesome but the Rickenbacker is heavy weight. So I was trying to replace it with a light weight Reverend Thundergun that is loaded with split coil precision and humbucker pickups. I have found that it did not cut enough in the mix being a bit muddy, although this bass can take the fuzz/OD effects remarkably. So that is why I thought the Sandberg Oliver Riedel could be the solution for it’s low weight, and hope it will take nicely the fuzz/OD effects without being muddy. Am I right ?
So, kind of a Cliff Burton era rig? Yeah, I could see that the Sandberg would work as a substitute for Cliff's Aria SB-1000. Or you could get a black Aria...
 
  • Like
Reactions: AudioTaper
So in the end I decided to pull the trigger and buy a VM5 nighthawk :D

PXL_20220421_163821805.PORTRAIT.jpg


The whole rosewood/pau ferro thing just became a non-issue for me, not sure why I was ever bothered about it. This photo doesn't do the fretboard justice, it's a gorgeous piece of wood!

Can I get a # number please?

(Oh ps does anybody know what the factory strings might be?)
 
So in the end I decided to pull the trigger and buy a VM5 nighthawk :D

View attachment 4666403

The whole rosewood/pau ferro thing just became a non-issue for me, not sure why I was ever bothered about it. This photo doesn't do the fretboard justice, it's a gorgeous piece of wood!

Can I get a # number please?

(Oh ps does anybody know what the factory strings might be?)
Great looking bass. I couldn’t get the stock strings off my bass fast enough. I hated the feel and the tone once they began to break in. Especially the B string. I replaced them with a set of TI Jazz Rounds and I’m a happy lady!!

I think they are Sandberg Strings?
 
So in the end I decided to pull the trigger and buy a VM5 nighthawk :D

View attachment 4666403

The whole rosewood/pau ferro thing just became a non-issue for me, not sure why I was ever bothered about it. This photo doesn't do the fretboard justice, it's a gorgeous piece of wood!

Can I get a # number please?

(Oh ps does anybody know what the factory strings might be?)

The bass guide pamphlet that comes with the bass says they are Sandberg stainless steel strings in medium gauge (40-128), if I am reading correctly.
 
  • Like
Reactions: LadyLoveStingRay5