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Club Sandberg (part 2)

I am pulling the trigger on a Sandberg VM4 I saw advertised locally. I have been wanting to have one for many years. What can you tell me about it, what can I expect? I only played one very briefly on a shop 8 years ago.
My current bass is a Mexican Fender PJ Active Deluxe, to which I replaced the pickups with a set of Dimarzios model PJ.
How will the Sandberg compare? I am hoping for a bit more punch on the M pickup and hopefully slightly better playability. Screenshot_2024-08-25-12-28-54-067_com.wallapop.jpg
 
NBD - at least for me. I bought my second Sandberg Florence bass; I got it at GC. It is the bottom one, I put the extra plate I got from a TB buddy and the jazz knobs that I prefer.

Next I will send it to my good friend to have made to fretless. Then I will have the pair I want - one fretted and one fretless.

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I am pulling the trigger on a Sandberg VM4 I saw advertised locally. I have been wanting to have one for many years. What can you tell me about it, what can I expect? I only played one very briefly on a shop 8 years ago.
My current bass is a Mexican Fender PJ Active Deluxe, to which I replaced the pickups with a set of Dimarzios model PJ.
How will the Sandberg compare? I am hoping for a bit more punch on the M pickup and hopefully slightly better playability.View attachment 7013200

I have a 2014 VM5 (the old Fenderish corpus shape). It's a completely different beast than the Fender. Quality is outstanding. Mine has an extremely well-defined B string. Beats my US G&L L2500 hands down. Soundwise, it's somewhere between a Precision and a Stingray. Passive and neck PU solo'ed it comes reasonably close to a Precision but somewhat lacking the warmth. Bridge PU solo'ed it's more nasal than a Stingray but with bass dimed it's ok. I think the tone, all in all is a bit dryish, which also may be due to the fact that one reverse P your thumb resting position is closer to the bridge. But it sits remarkably well in the mix. My preferred sound is neck PU about 20% up, highs flat and bass a tad up. Anyway, you will love it.
 
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Old member GASing to re-join the club. I had a lovely VM5 a couple of years ago, but sold it due to the B-string being muddy and completely lacking any definition.

Since then I've fallen for 35" fivers, so now I'm scared to move back down to 34", especially given my experience with that VM5 B-string.

It's a shame that 35" Sandbergs are few and far between on the used market (can't justify the orice of a new one), but hopefully one will turn up.

Anyway, here's my old VM5. Apart from the shoddy B string, it was an absolute delight to play and it sounded immense!

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I received my Sandberg VM4 last tuesday and I was testing it for the last few days.
You guys were right, a big improvement over my Fender MiM PJ bass. The Sandberg is lighter, feels better when holding it. The neck profile is flatter and more importantly, the action came set way lower. To a degree that is impossible to get with the MiM. In fact, that was the main reason why I wanted/needed a new bass. I adjusted the bridge as low as can get, and the tuss rod for the neck to be as flat as possible, and the action was still too high. I could throw arrows with it. Consequence: it make playing very hard.
With the sandberg I play better. It has made me a better player just by getting it. I can press the strings with a lighter touch and the distance I need to press down is reduced by a couple of mm. Therefore, I play faster and save me some stamina. Together with the flatter neck profile, which also helps a lot on this side of things, and the lighter overall weight, it makes the playing experience so much better.
My only regret is not having bought one years ago!!
Anything else, the finish is also nicer and makes ir feel more of a quality instrument.
The preamp is also better in the Sandberg, and the feel of the pots and knobs too. Regarding the pickups, this is the only department where I do not feel I am having a clear improvement. The Sandberg pickups sound very good, they have a beautiful vintage and smooth sound. No complains on their quality.
However, I prefer punchier pickups. In the Fender bass, I hated the original pickups and replaced them with a set of DiMarzios model PJ, wich I like quite a bit.
Comparing side by side, the Sandberg are nice and round, and feel great for smoother sounds. But the DiMarzios are punchier and more agressive, which I prefer. Also, I liked a lot that the pole pieces are 2 sets of screws per string, so I could adjust their height for even volume string to string. I kind of miss having that level of fine-tuning capability, but I guess is not that common in general. Not many manufacturers offer that.
I will give the new ones some time before I decide if I want to keep them or to replace them... I read that Sandberg has a punchier line of pickups that seem to be punchier... would those give me that sound I like? (I like the Dimarzios, but also love a Thunderbird kind of tone).

Finally, in my Fender, I had installed a Hipshot Bass Xtender tuner, and I enjoy the ability to drop tune on the fly. But it wouldn´t fit the Sandberg, so I can not do the transfer from one bass to the other. Anyone knows if there is a Hipshot Xtender that fits as a direct replacement for Sandberg Tuners?
 
Finally, after almost 19 months my custom made California VS5 arrived. So happy about tone, playability and weight 😎🤘

My main bass since '97 was a Stingray 5, but in recent years I preferred the tone of my (modded) Squier Classic Vibe P-bass.
With the Sandberg I now have the 5 strings and build quality of the Stingray and the classic P-bass tone of the Squier. And it's lighter than the Stingray, and so far I do like the Sandberg preamp better. Perfect for me 😎

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Hi. Although I DON'T NEED another Sandberg, I want one more. I own a TT4 passive, and for no reason, I NEED a roquefort blue TT4 before I die.

I love passive and classic jazz bass tone, but in this case I'm considering get a TT4 with Delano big pole pickups for a different flavour.

My question is... it will sound like a jazz? It will still has some growl and the jazz tone?
I''ve already owned a VM4 with active big pole Pups and that sound was not for me. Too clean and polite. It sounds nice, and has very good dynamics, detail, low and high end, but lacks something that I love in the Fender sound.
Could you tell me if I'll love the Delanos, or maybe I should stay with a passive unit?
How good are the Sandberg generic pickups? Are they good enough to keep it, or are just so so?
Regards
 
Hi. Although I DON'T NEED another Sandberg, I want one more. I own a TT4 passive, and for no reason, I NEED a roquefort blue TT4 before I die.

I love passive and classic jazz bass tone, but in this case I'm considering get a TT4 with Delano big pole pickups for a different flavour.

My question is... it will sound like a jazz? It will still has some growl and the jazz tone?
I''ve already owned a VM4 with active big pole Pups and that sound was not for me. Too clean and polite. It sounds nice, and has very good dynamics, detail, low and high end, but lacks something that I love in the Fender sound.
Could you tell me if I'll love the Delanos, or maybe I should stay with a passive unit?
How good are the Sandberg generic pickups? Are they good enough to keep it, or are just so so?
Regards

I love Delano pickups in my TM4, and play them almost exclusively in passive mode.
I recently compared the sound with two Fender Jazz Basses, and I can say that it is not the same, but neither worse nor better, just different. Considering that the bridge pickup is a humbucker and not a single, that difference can be expected, but even when I compare only the neck pickup, it doesn't sound the same as on the Fenders either, but I like it. There is something in big pole Delanos I really like.
Anyway, you should try if you can...
 
My question is... it will sound like a jazz? It will still has some growl and the jazz tone?
I''ve already owned a VM4 with active big pole Pups and that sound was not for me. Too clean and polite. It sounds nice, and has very good dynamics, detail, low and high end, but lacks something that I love in the Fender sound.
Could you tell me if I'll love the Delanos, or maybe I should stay with a passive unit?
How good are the Sandberg generic pickups? Are they good enough to keep it, or are just so so?
Regards
Adding to what Obra described above, the big pole Delano pickups are ceramic magnet pickups and have a very clean tone with quick transients and dynamics. Lows and highs are a good tone description. I think the big pole Delanos lack that midrange richness or grit and gives that "gurk" sound for lack of a better term. Again, not better or worse, just a different tone. But I'm coming from my TM4 and those pickups are a bit different with placement and the coil tap option.

Now, I did recently demo a Fender Jazz bass that was modded with a set of single coil big pole Delanos (JMVCs) in the standard 60s position and I thought they sounded great. Still jazz bass like but with a lot more horsepower but not in a bad way. Didn't take much to make the notes jump out. So I'd say it's worth a shot especially since you already own a passive TT4, and like you said, this would give you another flavor to work with.
 
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Hi. Although I DON'T NEED another Sandberg, I want one more. I own a TT4 passive, and for no reason, I NEED a roquefort blue TT4 before I die.

I love passive and classic jazz bass tone, but in this case I'm considering get a TT4 with Delano big pole pickups for a different flavour.

My question is... it will sound like a jazz? It will still has some growl and the jazz tone?
I''ve already owned a VM4 with active big pole Pups and that sound was not for me. Too clean and polite. It sounds nice, and has very good dynamics, detail, low and high end, but lacks something that I love in the Fender sound.
Could you tell me if I'll love the Delanos, or maybe I should stay with a passive unit?
How good are the Sandberg generic pickups? Are they good enough to keep it, or are just so so?
Regards
I'm with @_Obra_ on this. The Delanos have a wide frequency spectrum and will sound clean compared to typical (if there is such a thing) Fender jazz pickups. I've cycled through a bunch of Fender basses but I've stayed loyal to Sandbergs with Delanos for over a decade.

I also like how they sound in passive mode, where I can use effects and amplifier to add colour to the tone.
 
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