Combo or head and cab? Both should be 2x10s. Both w/ headroom.

[joeytravers13]

I have an Ampeg svt4 pro w/ 610hlf for heavy lifting but I'd like a smaller venue rig, 2x10s or maybe 2x12s. I already own a small head Ampeg PF-500 so that would only require a cab (ampeg,rumble,markbass). Or I can sell the PF-500 and buy a combo like Rumble 500/800 (no digital efx), Markbass 210s, GK MB210 II. I just need to make sure I can hear myself over loud drummers. Id love to hear your experiences with these rigs. Im not really interested in any other rigs (no offense), although I do hear great things about Aguilar. And BTW, I love the bass community here! Ive learned so much!

 

[G-Dog]

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Hey, joe, where ya going with that... ... uh, I mean ... ...

Howdy! Sounds like you're open to just about anything! Can you, maybe, prioritize your goals like price, weight, tone, power level , etc.?

Most members of the Fender Rumble Club feel like this value line offers the sweet spot combination of low price, light weight, great tone, power for headroom, combos & separates; all the way from 15 watt practice amps to 800 watt pro gear, and everything in between. See the Rumble V3 Summary Chart to compare many such basic features between models. Then come to The Club to discuss your particular interests.

Of course, the bottom line for most musicians is tone. So, ya really need to audition as many of your prospects as you can find at local music stores, if possible.
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[2thAche]

I have a GK MB212 800w and it's way overkill for small venues. I moved to an F112 with a GK fusion 800w head and it's plenty for any bar size gig with one guitar player and a drummer.

I like the idea of combos, and they're great for playing at home or practice room, but for gigging, head / cab ends up being more practical.

 

[eriky4003]

I'm not sure a 2x10 cab and amp (separate or combo) can keep up with a loud drummer. At the very least, you will have to prop the cab closer to your ear for clarity. Buy something that is expandable in case you're not bringing enough fire power to hear yourself adequately. The Rumble combo can have an extension cab. If you're going the head/cab route, get an 8 ohm 2x10 so you can get another if you find yourself being buried. There are 2x10 cabs on the market that can probably keep up but they will be a bit more pricey.

 

[abarson]

I use an Acme B2 210 and I have no problem being heard with a fairly loud drummer in most scenarios.

 

[Smith357]

I like head and cab, If you don't need the cab at one venue you don't have to carry it, if you have a combo you are carrying the speakers whether you need them or not.

 

[joeytravers13]

I have a GK MB212 800w and it's way overkill for small venues. I moved to an F112 with a GK fusion 800w head and it's plenty for any bar size gig with one guitar player and a drummer.

I like the idea of combos, and they're great for playing at home or practice room, but for gigging, head / cab ends up being more practical.

Yes, I do like the options of head and cab.

 

[joeytravers13]

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Hey, joe, where ya going with that... ... uh, I mean ... ...

Howdy! Sounds like you're open to just about anything! Can you, maybe, prioritize your goals like price, weight, tone, power level , etc.?

Most members of the Fender Rumble Club feel like this value line offers the sweet spot combination of low price, light weight, great tone, power for headroom, combos & separates; all the way from 15 watt practice amps to 800 watt pro gear, and everything in between. See the Rumble V3 Summary Chart to compare many such basic features between models. Then come to The Club to discuss your particular interests.

Of course, the bottom line for most musicians is tone. So, ya really need to audition as many of your prospects as you can find at local music stores, if possible.
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Thanks for the response, really appreciate it.

 

[joeytravers13]

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Hey, joe, where ya going with that... ... uh, I mean ... ...

Howdy! Sounds like you're open to just about anything! Can you, maybe, prioritize your goals like price, weight, tone, power level , etc.?

Most members of the Fender Rumble Club feel like this value line offers the sweet spot combination of low price, light weight, great tone, power for headroom, combos & separates; all the way from 15 watt practice amps to 800 watt pro gear, and everything in between. See the Rumble V3 Summary Chart to compare many such basic features between models. Then come to The Club to discuss your particular interests.

Of course, the bottom line for most musicians is tone. So, ya really need to audition as many of your prospects as you can find at local music stores, if possible.
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I like the options on the amps I have in my original post. I’m just wondering if I have more options and power with separate components or is there a 2x10 combo that has more punch than others. Thanks again for the response.

 

[joeytravers13]

I have a GK MB212 800w and it's way overkill for small venues. I moved to an F112 with a GK fusion 800w head and it's plenty for any bar size gig with one guitar player and a drummer.

I like the idea of combos, and they're great for playing at home or practice room, but for gigging, head / cab ends up being more practical.

I’m leaning towards separate components (head, bottom) but man the MB210 II is an incredible lil amp.

 

[joeytravers13]

I'm not sure a 2x10 cab and amp (separate or combo) can keep up with a loud drummer. At the very least, you will have to prop the cab closer to your ear for clarity. Buy something that is expandable in case you're not bringing enough fire power to hear yourself adequately. The Rumble combo can have an extension cab. If you're going the head/cab route, get an 8 ohm 2x10 so you can get another if you find yourself being buried. There are 2x10 cabs on the market that can probably keep up but they will be a bit more pricey.

Thanks for your response, appreciate it.

 

[G-Dog]

I like the options on the amps I have in my original post. I’m just wondering if I have more options and power with separate components or is there a 2x10 combo that has more punch than others. Thanks again for the response.

Yes, the new Fender Rumble 800 COMBO has a bit more punch than the 500 combos, at $999 & just 29 lb.s with 2 Neo 10"s, PLUS it has an innovative 1/4 power swith to turn it into a small venue 100 watt combo when needed! And it can push one, or two, 8 ohm extensions for more SPL on stage. It's getting lots of good buzz from those who've tried it!
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[SJan3]

I have an Ampeg svt4 pro w/ 610hlf for heavy lifting but I'd like a smaller venue rig, 2x10s or maybe 2x12s. I already own a small head Ampeg PF-500 so that would only require a cab (ampeg,rumble,markbass). Or I can sell the PF-500 and buy a combo like Rumble 500/800 (no digital efx), Markbass 210s, GK MB210 II. I just need to make sure I can hear myself over loud drummers. Id love to hear your experiences with these rigs. Im not really interested in any other rigs (no offense), although I do hear great things about Aguilar. And BTW, I love the bass community here! Ive learned so much!

I'd get 2x12"s if playing with a loud drummer. Any less and you may fall short. Or, two 2x10"s to guarantee you'll have enough speaker. The new MarkBass Neo cabs are LIGHT! Two of them will be an easy schlep. I have the older 2x10"s and they're only 33 lbs. The new MB58R series is in the 25 lb range. There's even a new 3x10" that weighs 33.7 lbs and is way efficient @ 103 DB SPL. Handles 600 watts RMS. See my 2x10" stack..

 

[joeytravers13]

Yes, the new Fender Rumble 800 COMBO has a bit more punch than the 500 combos, at $999 & just 29 lb.s with 2 Neo 10"s, PLUS it has an innovative 1/4 power swith to turn it into a small venue 100 watt combo when needed! And it can push one, or two, 8 ohm extensions for more SPL on stage. It's getting lots of good buzz from those who've tried it!
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I'd get 2x12"s if playing with a loud drummer. Any less and you may fall short. Or, two 2x10"s to guarantee you'll have enough speaker. The new MarkBass Neo cabs are LIGHT! Two of them will be an easy schlep. I have the older 2x10"s and they're only 33 lbs. The new MB58R series is in the 25 lb range. There's even a new 3x10" that weighs 33.7 lbs and is way efficient @ 103 DB SPL. Handles 600 watts RMS. See my 2x10" stack..View attachment 4997601

I'd get 2x12"s if playing with a loud drummer. Any less and you may fall short. Or, two 2x10"s to guarantee you'll have enough speaker. The new MarkBass Neo cabs are LIGHT! Two of them will be an easy schlep. I have the older 2x10"s and they're only 33 lbs. The new MB58R series is in the 25 lb range. There's even a new 3x10" that weighs 33.7 lbs and is way efficient @ 103 DB SPL. Handles 600 watts RMS. See my 2x10" stack..View attachment 4997601

 

[joeytravers13]

I'd get 2x12"s if playing with a loud drummer. Any less and you may fall short. Or, two 2x10"s to guarantee you'll have enough speaker. The new MarkBass Neo cabs are LIGHT! Two of them will be an easy schlep. I have the older 2x10"s and they're only 33 lbs. The new MB58R series is in the 25 lb range. There's even a new 3x10" that weighs 33.7 lbs and is way efficient @ 103 DB SPL. Handles 600 watts RMS. See my 2x10" stack..View attachment 4997601

I love that rig but can’t justify spending the money since I already have another couple set ups…but man that is a beauty!

 

[G-Dog]

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Some 800 watt 410 stacks:

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