Ok guys enough of this defending the band crap. Eric made a statement that Cone from Sum 41 wasnt that good (which is infact true) and then andy had to get all pussy hurt about it and complain that we shouldn't make fun of other bassist or we'll goto time out. Well look Andy im sure Eric isnt the only bassist who rags on other crappier bassist out there. I do it, im sure you do it to unless you listen to a cd and say "Although he hit all the wrong notes and cant keep a beat if his life depended on it, He was good in his own respect". So anyway the point of this topic is to not get all pussy hurt over other peoples comments and fight it like it was WW2.