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Did not say "John Myung blows", said calling him the greatest bassist is a joke. No rage, no bashing.
Did not say "John Myung blows", said calling him the greatest bassist is a joke. No rage, no bashing.
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Congratulations John Myung!!!
- Thread starter Leftybass12
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First of all, I have no doubt that all the bassists on the list are indeed masters of the craft, and well-deserving to be recognized. But the list seems to have some glaring omissions.
This was compiled by "The No. 1 Website for Musicians?" That's quite a statement!
With such a seemingly broad following, they would have been better off categorizing the poll a little better--say "the best Pop Bass Players" or something like that, and really limiting the choices to that specific category. Really hard to compare bassists when your mainstream-centric list includes fusion crossovers--but then you're heading in to Jazz territory and missing out on artists like:
Brian Bromberg
John Pattitucci
Kim Stone
....and if you're going to include a matron like Carol Kaye, you might as well add in straight-ahead jazz and include...
Ron Carter
Ray Brown
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus....
Epic poll fail---doomed before they even posted it.
Which is more the pity because it taints the honor well-deserved by those who were indeed listed.
This was compiled by "The No. 1 Website for Musicians?" That's quite a statement!
With such a seemingly broad following, they would have been better off categorizing the poll a little better--say "the best Pop Bass Players" or something like that, and really limiting the choices to that specific category. Really hard to compare bassists when your mainstream-centric list includes fusion crossovers--but then you're heading in to Jazz territory and missing out on artists like:
Brian Bromberg
John Pattitucci
Kim Stone
....and if you're going to include a matron like Carol Kaye, you might as well add in straight-ahead jazz and include...
Ron Carter
Ray Brown
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus....
Epic poll fail---doomed before they even posted it.
Which is more the pity because it taints the honor well-deserved by those who were indeed listed.
Focusing on parts of the sentence instead of the general idea, awesome. My point was that instead of worrying that John Myung got number 1 (which isn't THAT terrible, he is VERY good), why not comment on something much more ridiculous, like a legend like James Jamerson not being up there in the top 10 or that garbage Slipknot bassist being on the list.
But yeah, continue to nitpick at choice of words, you must be a real hit at parties.
No Marcus Miller ?
What is this ?
I effing hate how social networking-based medias are taking the center piece of informations relay nowadays. Journalists don't know sht and they rely on people dumb enough to read them to create the infos,
- Up next, we'll take a few emails and tweets to decide which religion is the true one.
What is this ?
I effing hate how social networking-based medias are taking the center piece of informations relay nowadays. Journalists don't know sht and they rely on people dumb enough to read them to create the infos,
- Up next, we'll take a few emails and tweets to decide which religion is the true one.
This is like when the local newspaper runs a readers choice poll for best Italian restaurant, and the Olive Garden wins
"Yes, you could say Les Claypool of whatever band he's in is the best f'n bassist in the world technically, but he lacks the soul of people like Flea and myself."- Duff McKagan.
I think that sums it up, just substitue John Myung for Les Claypool.
I think that sums it up, just substitue John Myung for Les Claypool.
There is nothing wrong with technical players, different strokes for different folks. It's very pretentious when people feel that one play style is superior to another. "Soul" /> technical skill. It's all preference. Seeing that quote made me lose a bit of respect for McKagan.
Obviously you don't understand what I'm saying. Of course we compete for those things, like you said. But are you implying that Rush's music is better than Dream Theater, or The Who's music is better than The Beatles? In essence, that's what this list is saying. Music is not a competition, it's an art, it's in the ear and mind of the beholder.
I also disagree with your second statement. While there is a lot of it, my 56 years tell me that not everything is a competition. If need be, I could cite you a few examples.
Music is a competition but different preferences prevent people from ranking all musicians to one scale. There are people who are competitive about music out there, therefore it can and is a competition. If you prefer not to compete with music that is your prerogative. The NHL is competitive, Timbits hockey league for children is not, hockey is still a competitive sport. Art can be competitive.
Edit: And The Who's music IS better than The Beatles.
Well, you're certainly entitled to your opinion. If you wish for your art to be competitive, then the best of luck to you.
BTW Rush's music is better than The Who or The Beatles!
I'm amazed that there's 34 posts in the thread, and not one person has asked: "Greatest based on what criteria?"
I mean, is there some standard for how bassists are ranked that I'm not aware of? I was trying to get a discussion going of this exact phenomenon in order to gain an understanding of how people decide what artist is "better" than another, but the thread was removed before any thoughtful posts were made. Personally, I'm baffled that people throw "best" and "greatest" and "better" around like everyone abides by the same standards they use, without even stating what those standards are.
Case in point.
"Better" in what regard? You seem to be claiming this as an objective fact, therefore you must be able to prove it empirically. Go ahead.
I mean, is there some standard for how bassists are ranked that I'm not aware of? I was trying to get a discussion going of this exact phenomenon in order to gain an understanding of how people decide what artist is "better" than another, but the thread was removed before any thoughtful posts were made. Personally, I'm baffled that people throw "best" and "greatest" and "better" around like everyone abides by the same standards they use, without even stating what those standards are.
Case in point.
"Better" in what regard? You seem to be claiming this as an objective fact, therefore you must be able to prove it empirically. Go ahead.
Atleast pete wentz isnt on the list. Although the list isnt right geddy was in a pretty good place though.
Christian McBride does things on upright that I'm sure some of those people on that list can't do on electric.First of all, I have no doubt that all the bassists on the list are indeed masters of the craft, and well-deserving to be recognized. But the list seems to have some glaring omissions.
This was compiled by "The No. 1 Website for Musicians?" That's quite a statement!
With such a seemingly broad following, they would have been better off categorizing the poll a little better--say "the best Pop Bass Players" or something like that, and really limiting the choices to that specific category. Really hard to compare bassists when your mainstream-centric list includes fusion crossovers--but then you're heading in to Jazz territory and missing out on artists like:
Brian Bromberg
John Pattitucci
Kim Stone
....and if you're going to include a matron like Carol Kaye, you might as well add in straight-ahead jazz and include...
Ron Carter
Ray Brown
Percy Heath
Charles Mingus....
Epic poll fail---doomed before they even posted it.
Which is more the pity because it taints the honor well-deserved by those who were indeed listed.
