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Convince me to get Flats

Or you could just install them, adjust string height and intonation if necessary, which is exceedingly simple to do with tons of how-to's available on this very website, and play.

I haven't been playing for 44 years, but I've never had to pay someone to install strings for me.

+1
I just switched strings on my Jazz 5 from D'Addario steel rounds to Roto 77s. I am now setting up my bass as the tension is way more and the action is quite high. The string tension is a blessing to me… I don't want my B or E flapping around if I hit them open. I like the 77s, plenty bright enough for me even though I just switched from the super bright Prosteels.

Do it,
fnord!
 
Then you've missed out on the joys of a truely professional set-up. When making a drastic change in tension such as going from rounds to flats, a completely new set-up is absolutely required. Taking your bass and new stringset to a luthier for professional installation & set-up is just good; sound, and responsible advice.

I agree. If you have a lot of money you don't need, the time and patience to wait for a luthier to do a setup, and a complete inability to use an Allen key, then a luthier string installation is a great idea.
 
I agree. If you have a lot of money you don't need, the time and patience to wait for a luthier to do a setup, and a complete inability to use an Allen key, then a luthier string installation is a great idea.

All the old vets I know have a phobia of messing up their gear. They usually invested a lot of dough in the guitar or bass and would rather pay to have it fixed than have themselves to blame for any damage to their cherished ax.
Certainly, bass set up is within the range of the average person, though. Not sure what a luthier would do of added value, except maybe he's got some special smelling polish or something:smug:.
 
I'm sure there are cases where better judgement would say to take it to a professional for setup, and others where that would be crazy. For example, for someone who's generally handy with such stuff and has purchased an old junker for $150, that would be crazy.
When making a drastic change in tension such as going from rounds to flats, a completely new set-up is absolutely required.

"Absolutely required." (Let's skip over the question of whether round wound vs flat wound string tension is that cut and dried.) In this statement, we see something that is really all over the talkbass, on the electric bass side anyway: our perspective is more limited than we realize.

You don't have to think very hard about it, before it will occur to you that there are bass owners out there who could probably manage a string setup, and basses where a pro setup isn't economically justifiable (let's skip over the question of whether a pro setup is always going to be as good as it should be!)

When you think about someone's advice on a favorite string, you don't have to think very hard before it will occur to you that some bass players out there sound very different from how you'd like to sound, to the extent that if they like a string, most likely you won't like it.

But thinking about stuff like that hurts our heads, so talkbass is full of stuff like "absolutely required!" and "best strings, hands down!"

There's my rant for the holidays!
 
Just to add to the confusion, let me suggest that if you're looking for a different tone, consider ribbon-wounds. The GHS are fairly inexpensive, and are the same gauge as standard strings; no nut mod required. I found I had to release quite a lot of tension on the truss rod when I changed to them, but have been absolutely delighted in the sound and feel of these strings.
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I'm sure there are cases where better judgement would say to take it to a professional for setup, and others where that would be crazy. For example, for someone who's generally handy with such stuff and has purchased an old junker for $150, that would be crazy.


"Absolutely required." (Let's skip over the question of whether round wound vs flat wound string tension is that cut and dried.) In this statement, we see something that is really all over the talkbass, on the electric bass side anyway: our perspective is more limited than we realize.

You don't have to think very hard about it, before it will occur to you that there are bass owners out there who could probably manage a string setup, and basses where a pro setup isn't economically justifiable (let's skip over the question of whether a pro setup is always going to be as good as it should be!)

When you think about someone's advice on a favorite string, you don't have to think very hard before it will occur to you that some bass players out there sound very different from how you'd like to sound, to the extent that if they like a string, most likely you won't like it.

But thinking about stuff like that hurts our heads, so talkbass is full of stuff like "absolutely required!" and "best strings, hands down!"

There's my rant for the holidays!

Ah, the rant of logic. Perhaps, one has dealt with the horror of the holidays… family/inlaws/friends of such, spouting illogical ramblings while inhaling wine and good cheer?

let's not deal too much with semantics tonight,

my head hurts,
fnord!
 
The only way to see if flats work for you is to slap a set on and try them in a band setting. They might take a bit of getting used to - you might love them straight up.... you might hate them totally. I think I switched between flats and rounds back and forth for a couple of years and would often have a bass with each strung up. I haven't had a set of rounds for about 2 years now though and don't miss them at all. They just sound and feel wrong to me now.

Like a lot of people I'd recomend a set of Chromes first - they're a great introduction to the world of flats. I love Labellas but they feel heavier and tighter - great tone. My favourite strings are TI's and have them on everything now.
 
The only way to see if flats work for you is to slap a set on and try them in a band setting. They might take a bit of getting used to - you might love them straight up.... you might hate them totally. I think I switched between flats and rounds back and forth for a couple of years and would often have a bass with each strung up. I haven't had a set of rounds for about 2 years now though and don't miss them at all. They just sound and feel wrong to me now.

Like a lot of people I'd recomend a set of Chromes first - they're a great introduction to the world of flats. I love Labellas but they feel heavier and tighter - great tone. My favourite strings are TI's and have them on everything now.

+1 to all of this. Except I'd say you'll probably not like them right away. I didn't. I also settled on Ti's, for like a year . Love them but had a bad experience playing them in a very humid outdoor gig for a week- they got really sticky for me and I went back to Sunbeams. Will probably put the Ti's back on but am still enjoying the (dead) Sunbeams. But Ti's have a sound like no other string. Very nice, very present in the mix.
 
Many people recommend Chromes for their first flats, and I followed that advice myself, and was not disappointed. But after a few years, I wanted to try something different, and just put on a set of Fender 9050ML's.

I know there are differences, such as green silk vs blue, and the Fenders are wound in the opposite direction than Chromes, but playing them I could not really tell much difference. Fenders sound a tad brighter, but I only just put them on so we'll see if they'll also fade after a few months like Chromes do. Other than that, the tension and stiffness is almost identical, and the Fenders are a few dollars cheaper.

So for $22 you can try the Fenders, or spend about $30 on the Chromes. If you're still trying to decide whether to try flats, it ain't gonna set you back all that much. Go for it.
 
I have been switching all of my basses over to Fender medium light flats. I love the sound and the feel. They are not thumpy and not ringy, to me they are the Goldilocks of bass strings.

A bassist that I played drums with for years gave me a bunch of crap for switching to flats. He heard me play recently and said that he really liked my sound and that maybe he was miss-informed regarding flats.

The other odd thing is that the only flats any of the local shops have in stock are Chromes. I'm not sure why they are so hard to find here in this town. I order them on eBay.