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Double Bass Country Bass Walk

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I agree Bob was really a great player,,but I have just learned some interesting facts that alot of the stuff I always thought was Bob,, is really Junior Huskey,,Juniors grandson has all of his workbooks from 1961 till his death in 71, and he is working hard on documenting the songs cut in the sessions,(alot of Willies stuff and Waylons stuff and LOTS of Tammys) ,,he really is one of the forgoten players,,and a hell of a good one,,I aked Jim Ed Brown once who played on his recordings and he said Bob did alot of them,,but he repied "if I had a really good hard country shuffle I'd get Junior,,he could just make a song swing better than anyone",, and I've heard that from others,,no disrespect to Bob,,but he was'nt the only great bass player back in those days.
 
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superman said:
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I agree Bob was really a great player,,but I have just learned some interesting facts that alot of the stuff I always thought was Bob,, is really Junior Huskey,,Juniors grandson has all of his workbooks from 1961 till his death in 71, and he is working hard on documenting the songs cut in the sessions,(alot of Willies stuff and Waylons stuff and LOTS of Tammys) ,,he really is one of the forgoten players,,and a hell of a good one,,I aked Jim Ed Brown once who played on his recordings and he said Bob did alot of them,,but he repied "if I had a really good hard country shuffle I'd get Junior,,he could just make a song swing better than anyone",, and I've heard that from others,,no disrespect to Bob,,but he was'nt the only great bass player back in those days.
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Kent: Junior Huskey was a great bass player.
The thing about Bob Moore is that his work was everywhere back in the day. So for me it is much easier to find his recorded stuff.
He has also never been credit for the many sessions he was on that he either did not get a mention on the album for or on an overdub that only mentioned the original bass player eg. Simon and Garfunkel's Bridge Over Troubled Water and the Boxer, Bill Monroe, Flatt and Scruggs.
So it's about time Bob, Junior and other bass players are finally getting recognition for their work.
 
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As far as I know Bob never did any recording with Monroe,,he did do some sessions in 55,56,,and again in the late 60s with F&S,,but most of their later stuff wasnt very interesting,,Bob really didnt do much bluegrass in the 60s,,he did do a lp with the Osborne Bors in the 70s thats really great,,but its more like the Osbornes with a country band,,but good none the less
 
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This is the best thread I've ever happend across on Talkbass.

I am also a big fan of classic country bass and western swing, and play in two bands that cover these styles.

Thanks for the great discussion, we country upright players need our own damn forum!

There's alot of us country bassers over at the doublebasschat forum, along with the rockabilly players.
 
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wallydoesbass said:
frede,
Check out the 1961's "Buck Owens" (http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1133108).
Textbook country walking by Allen Williams.
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Walk The Floor sounds like a tricky tune to play. A real speed up slow down feel. Very Cool!

The original "Palm" tune, in question, just sounds like a 1/2 note feel to me. 1/5 or 1/3/5 but real late in the delivery. ..... I couldn't see what anyone else said about the original question. ..... But I'll keep looking.
 
#50
buffalobillh said:
Oh, I totally agree. Junior Huskey is tops in my book, too. I think among serious country & western upright bassists, Junior Huskey is alive and well.
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HUGE fan of Junior Huskey also.

I've been listening to alot of Pee Wee King stuff lately, and I was wondering if you or Superman know who was playing bass on alot of that stuff. Someone I know thinks maybe it was Junior, but noboby is sure.

Whoever it is does some mean slapping on certain songs.
 
#51
Gearhead43 said:
HUGE fan of Junior Huskey also.

I've been listening to alot of Pee Wee King stuff lately, and I was wondering if you or Superman know who was playing bass on alot of that stuff. Someone I know thinks maybe it was Junior, but noboby is sure.

Whoever it is does some mean slapping on certain songs.
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gearhead:

A quick Google check names Oral "Curley" Rhodes as the original bass player with Pee Wee King's Golden West Cowboys. There are videos of him doing some nice slap bass. Jimmy Wilkinson also played bass with the group.
I could not find any references that connected Junior Huskey to Pee Wee King.
 
#52
martinc said:
gearhead:

A quick Google check names Oral "Curley" Rhodes as the original bass player with Pee Wee King's Golden West Cowboys. There are videos of him doing some nice slap bass. Jimmy Wilkinson also played bass with the group.
I could not find any references that connected Junior Huskey to Pee Wee King.
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Thanks! **** I did some googlin' and didn't come up with those answers. I'll have to look again.

I've seen those vids of Pee Wee KIng and his band, and that bass player does some smokin slap breaks. He slaps WAY up high on the fingerboard, kinda crazy looking.

I have been in a big "Hillbilly Boogie" phase lately. Fun stuff with fun bass lines to play.

We need our own country upright bass forum I say!!! (although all you guys are more than welcome on the rockabillybass forum which is at doublebasschat now, alot of country bass players there. )
 
#53
martinc said:
Pick up a copy of Keith Rosier's "The Lost Art of Country Bass". It has all the country walking you will ever need including samples of Allen Williams and the great Bob Moore. Its in tab form so its easy to read. . . . I can't imagine a better book for this kind of music.
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+1 Rosier's book. Very interesting stuff in there, including country bassists using ii-V substitutions, etc. It has standard notation throughout, too, not just tabs, and the play-along CD is very good.
 
#54
If I could see the video I could tell who it was,,Curly Rhodes came to Nashv with Pee Wee in about 37-38,,he played bass itll sometime in 39 when Joe Zinkan went too work for Pee Wee and Curly went to guitar,,Joe stayed till some time in 43 when he went with Acuff,,I'm not sure if Curly remained with PeeWee or not,,I do know that this first band of PeeWees in the 30s-40s did not make any commercial recordings,,the first ones wernt till after the war when the recording ban was lifted,,I do have some live shows from the Opry in the 40s and they had a really hot band,I'm not really good at uploading files or where to upload them so I could share them but here is one thats in a archive online of Pee Wee and the Golden west cowboys from 12-1940,with Zinkan on the bass,,to play the song,hit (Access this item)
http://www.aca-dla.org/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/Ferrum43&CISOPTR=1279&CISOBOX=1&REC=9
 
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This is one of the RCA Recordings,, i'm not real sure if Gene Stewart is the same man known as Goldie Stewart,,But Goldie later played with the old time opry bands well into the 70's,Zinkan used Goldies blonde Kay some while Glodie repaired his old bass,Goldie was also a shop teacher at Hume Fogg high here in Nashv.I will have too do some more checking to see if this is the same guy,,,,,This band was a good swinging type band but nothing likethe "hot" band of the 30s-early40 2 December 1947 [10:30-13:30] RCA Victor Studio A, 30 S. Michigan Ave., Chicago, IL - Pee Wee King & Redd Stewart (Chuck Wiggins [gt], Roy Ayres [steel], Eugene Schuler [el banjo], Gene Stewart [bass], Sticks McDonald [drums], Shorty Boyd [fiddle]. Producer: Stephen Sholes & Charles Grean)
023 D7-VB-2309 OH MONAH 20-2841/BFX 15101
024 D7-VB-2310 BULL FIDDLE BOOGIE 20-3232 47-4601/LPM 3028
025 D7-VB-2311 TENNESSEE WALTZ 20-2680 47-4601/LPM 3028
026 D7-VB-2312 ROOTIE TOOTIE 20-2680 48-0003
 
#57
Tejano Bass said:
How about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X77zcf8pvpY&feature=related . . . listen all the way through for both slap & walk - ;)

Unfortunately, bass player not id'd . . . 1949 - Superman-???
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tejano: I saw that video. If you go to the Pee Wee King-Golden West Cowboys website they list out who played bass in 1948...but it was not Curly Rhodes. There is a picture that shows Gene Stewart as the bass player around that time. Gene also played for Gene Autry.
 
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Tejano Bass said:
Thanks, martinc . . . whoever it was sure knew what they were doin' - ;)
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tejano: They sure did. All those musicians back then could play well. Paul Howard and his Arkansas Cotton Pickers were around back then too. I have heard some of their recordings and it just knocked me out hearing the stuff they did. There were many other groups like that around at that time.
 

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