Here's another Pee Wee King vid taken from some movie, they show the bass player playing some smokin stuff on this one:
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Double Bass Country Bass Walk
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I am satisfied that Gene stewart and Goldie are not the same person,,Gene was part of the post war band,,
I will try to post a photo here of Zinkan with Pee Wee in about 39,,Zinkan set the bar for all the hillbilly/country players that followed,,Junior Huskeys grandson was told by his grandmother that Zinkan was his idol,Bob Moore also credits Zinkan as one of the first he remebers, as well as Jake Tullock who played for Flatt & Scruggs,If you can get the link I posted earlyer you will hear them Playing Mamma Dont Allow,,I have some other Opry spots of Zinkan playing solos with Acuffs band,,he is even listed on the programs of the opry up into the 50s as a solo preformer,I have a copy of Acuffs personal song list which he used to keep up with which songs he did and when,,all of them were old jazz and novilty songs,Tiger Rag,4Leaf Clover,Alabama Jubilee,,and lots more
I do have one song which he trades off parts on Silver Bells and playes every note, He was one of the most influential and least rememberd of all the Nashville pioneers.
I will try to post a photo here of Zinkan with Pee Wee in about 39,,Zinkan set the bar for all the hillbilly/country players that followed,,Junior Huskeys grandson was told by his grandmother that Zinkan was his idol,Bob Moore also credits Zinkan as one of the first he remebers, as well as Jake Tullock who played for Flatt & Scruggs,If you can get the link I posted earlyer you will hear them Playing Mamma Dont Allow,,I have some other Opry spots of Zinkan playing solos with Acuffs band,,he is even listed on the programs of the opry up into the 50s as a solo preformer,I have a copy of Acuffs personal song list which he used to keep up with which songs he did and when,,all of them were old jazz and novilty songs,Tiger Rag,4Leaf Clover,Alabama Jubilee,,and lots more
I do have one song which he trades off parts on Silver Bells and playes every note, He was one of the most influential and least rememberd of all the Nashville pioneers.
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Yep, Zinkan is another big hero of mine for sure. Country bass heros like Zinkan and Moore and Chance, and even Fred Maddox (another big hero of mine) - these guys don't get the credit they deserve.
But guys like us will be keeping their memory alive as long as we keep playing Roots country bass.
But guys like us will be keeping their memory alive as long as we keep playing Roots country bass.
What about Shug Fisher and Pat Brady? they were both credited as playing with the sons of the pioneers, you should listen to farr away stomp and another one i dont remeber now. someone told me Shug Fisher also played with Pee Wee King but i couldnt confirm. i tried to upload these 2 songs but failed...
ill write more later at home and ill confirm whats written on the records....
Nuno
ill write more later at home and ill confirm whats written on the records....
Nuno
Oh Yeah !! Billy Linneman one of the very best at that style!
Hope his health is recovering.
kg: Wonderful stuff for sure. Great to hear REAL country music played so well.
All the lines ( and the subtle stuff) that Bill Linneman is doing in that video is in Keith Rosier's book "The Lost Art of Country Bass".
That book opened my eyes to country and bluegrass bass playing and has been an inspiration.
Interesting that there is both a standup and electric bass with this classic Roger Miller video.
That's a great book! I read a little of it from a friends copy. Thought maybe the library would or could get it but no good there..
Guess it's off to Amazon
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That's a great book! I read a little of it from a friends copy. Thought maybe the library would or could get it but no good there..
Guess it's off to Amazon
I had a look at that book at Long & McQuade today and it seems to be written for electric bass. The fingerings and positions on some of it don't make any sense for DB...which is too bad because the ideas were cool.
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I had the book in my hands and gave it thorough consideration. The fingerings ignore open strings and are using four fingers in third and fourth position - I don't recall seeing any DB players doing that...
I love the lost art of country bass book, but I agree wholeheartedly that it is optimized for finger-per-fret electric playing, versus a more simandl approach.
I have, and I do. It isn't unusual at all. Many double bassists use four fingers in lower positions. It's an individual stylistic and sonic choice, it's one of the things that can distinguish one player from another when playing the same old line.
I guess it wouldn't be terribly hard to transpose the lines to a strictly Simandl type approach.
Jake: Some of it is fingered for electric bass but the first half of it has lots of DB....some great lines from Allen Williams, Bob Moore and Ray Price stuff.
I don't know who he is, but the bass player with the Quebe Sisters, as seen on the Marty Stewart show, can really smoke! He's a small, kinda thin guy, but man, can he play that fast western swing stuff. I'm not a real big fan of that music, but I sure do admire his playing. Anybody know who he is??
hammertime:
Not difficult to find out who he is....
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Thanks Martin...Wow!! that's some resume!! No wonder his playing is so impressive. You can tell that he is a trained musician by watching him play..not just some old 1-5 thumper like me. I really envy people with that kind of talent..just wish I had the dedication and drive like the really good players. I never did, and it's too late now. Thanks again.
hammertime: Y'r welcome. But it's NEVER too late! I'm in my 60's (a geezer) and am still listening and learning as much stuff as I can to make my playing better/tastier. Not sure if I am succeeding but I am having a great time keeping my ears open for new ideas.
