• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

"Cutting Through" on a Bongo

hi guys,

I am in a cover band doing mostly rock/ pop. I am playing a Musicman Bongo, and I was looking for some guidance on how to make my tone "Cut through" a bit more.

I have been told by a few folks that is best to adjust tone on the bass as opposed to through the amp. I am looking for a tone with a good amount of "Attack" like you would get through a Sansamp pedal (Without using Sansamp pedal).

I am assuming the secret lies in the mid range frequency, but I am having trouble dialing it in. Any suggestions?

Thanks,
 
The Sansamp Bass Driver with the EQ knobs at noon and the blend on full actually scoops your mids a considerable amount while fattening up your overall sound, very similar to an SVT; you can, however, dial in quite a bit of 'cut'/attack by boosting the presence knob, which affects a frequency somewhere around 1.5kHz-2kHz.

In my experience, you'll find more 'cut' by boosting by boosting the upper mids somewhere between 800Hz-1.5kHz, and more 'punch' but boosting somewhere between 200Hz-600Hz....A LOT depends on your particular bass, amp and how they interact, but the answer definitely lies in the midrange.

Follow your ears, and enjoy experimenting ;)
 
does rolling the pickup balance back to the bridge pickup a fair bit help?

My experience:

PUs both 50/50: Bass delivers a nice foundation and cushion for the band to ride on
Bridge PU solo or favored: more cut and midrange, more attack and more focused tone. Tone loses bass and gets a tad nasal
Neck PU: broad, open and in your face bass sound like a P.

And don't judge the tone by it's solo performance. Especially the bridge pu heavy tone really shines in a band setting and sounds rather horrible on its own compared to both PUs full.
 
Thanks for all of the advice. It is the HH model by the way. I usually favor the neck PU, but perhaps I should try rolling back to the bridge a bit.

I think this is the way to go. I've had a few HH bongos and have usually found that favoring the bridge pickup a little bit makes a huge difference in how the bass sits in the mix.

Actually, I can't remember a time when I boosted any band of the Bongo on board EQ - I did pretty much everything with the Pickup balance and occasionally cutting an EQ band depending on the room and mix.
 
Here are my common settings for the preamp in my Bongo 6 HH that I like for pop/rock:
(Disclaimer: I am using a SansAmp)

Bass - about 10% down from center detent
Treble - center or 10% down
High Mid - center or 10% up
Low Mid - 10-15% up

So the mids might be the sound you're lacking. For the pickup blend I usually have it on one of two positions: either 20% up or down from center. For some reason I like the tone when the pickups are blended about 70/30 one way or the other. When the rhythm guitar is playing in the lower register with distortion I put it about 70/30 to the neck for smoother deeper tones. Then if the guitar is clean or playing a higher lead then I put it at 70/30 to the bridge to give me a slightly more driving aggressive sound. These settings help me stand out apart from the guitar in the mix.
 
Here are my common settings for the preamp in my Bongo 6 HH that I like for pop/rock:
(Disclaimer: I am using a SansAmp)

Bass - about 10% down from center detent
Treble - center or 10% down
High Mid - center or 10% up
Low Mid - 10-15% up

So the mids might be the sound you're lacking. For the pickup blend I usually have it on one of two positions: either 20% up or down from center. For some reason I like the tone when the pickups are blended about 70/30 one way or the other. When the rhythm guitar is playing in the lower register with distortion I put it about 70/30 to the neck for smoother deeper tones. Then if the guitar is clean or playing a higher lead then I put it at 70/30 to the bridge to give me a slightly more driving aggressive sound. These settings help me stand out apart from the guitar in the mix.

This is right on the money and where I usually run on eq/blend as well. The only other thing I would add is to keep the amp eq flat or slight cut/boost on low/mid freq's....same as the bass. This will give you a cutting machine like no other.