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Double Bass D' Addario Hybrid Medium tuned one step down tension question!

So I tuned my bass ( Czech carved 2002) one step down using the d'addario set and I really like the sound and feel of it. The sound is more open and the strings are much less stiff.

Would anyone have any idea what kind of strings would have the elasticity and tension that the d'addario set has when it's tuned one step lower? Is there a way to calculate what kind of tension the strings loose when tuned one step down?

By the way I don't really like thin strings so I guess corelli are not an option. I guess low to medium tension - medium to high stiffness is what I'm looking for so it would work with medium to low string height. ( G 0.6mm, D 0.7mm, A 0.8mm ,E 0.9mm)
 
Doublemidi is really good at this stuff and he told me when I started messing around with tunings that a wholestep up means 20%-25% more tension. So, I quess that a wholestep down, like solo strings at orchestral pitch, or orchestral at D-G-C-F means 20-25% less tension. Don`t know about D`addarios but Thomastik Infeld has a string tension chart on their page. Theres a string tension chart somewhere online as well, comparing different brands of strings ( you find it somewhere on Talkbass too ).

Hope this helps!
 
Any solo set. It is very common to get a set of solo strings and tune them down a whole step back to orchestra pitch to get a softer feel.

Tension varies as the square of the pitch. So each half step lessens the tension by (2^1/12)^2, or @ 1.0594631^2. So a full step would be that much again, or @ 1.0594631^4. The bottom line is that a set of strings tuned down a whole step has about 26% less tension than at that string's regular pitch.

Don't go too low. Assuming the bass is set up properly otherwise, it needs enough tension in the strings for stability and to drive the top, but not so much that it chokes the top. The D'Addario Hybrid Helicore medium set tuned down a step will have a tension of @ 50 to 55 pounds per string. So you want to find a set that has the same resulting tension. If you like the feel and tone of your Hybrid Helicore Mediums, D'Addario makes a solo Hybrid set, that when tuned down to orchestra pitch gives you that same lower tension and feel at standard pitch.
 
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Yes the Helicore solo set is probably a good idea. I tried Velvet Garbos in the past and with my string heights the bass wasn't producing much sound but that was also before I took my bass for a major set up- repair. I don't know, I was happy with the way the bass sounded when tuned a whole step down but after a while I realized that the slow response of the strings is not something I'm used to and I don't feel I should be messing with my right hand technique right now...

Maybe I should go back to a lighter tension string I already know ( Jazzers, Spiro weichs). I remember hating the spiro weich G but that was a long time ago. I really liked the jazzers and had them on the bass for over 3 years. Since I'm playing pizzicato-arco 90-10 I was also wondering if there is a really cheap steel string set anyone could recommend. Thomann has a set called the "classic line" that goes for 35e. I guess if it was any good we would know by now ,right? :) But really if you know of a medium to light tension set that is decent sounding and goes for less than 100e, please share!
 
What everybody else said about strings. As I posted above, I only recommended the D'Addario Solo set because it is most like what you are using right now. Yes, as recommended above, the Velvet Blues, having a synthetic core, have a nice snap and tone for pizz; the down side is they discolor easily with their copper alloy wrap. And Yes, if you want to go back go Spiros, then there are at least seven sets to choose from that can be strung up on a standard 3/4 106cm bass. Of those seven sets, if you want the 50 to 55 pounds of tension per string, then there are three sets that fit: the traditional S42 Weichs that, when adjusted from a 110cm scale which they are rated for to 106cm, have about 55 to 63 pounds tension per string; if you want more even tension across the board, then the 4/4 solo set, when adjusted to the shorter scale, has about 50 to 55 pounds tension per string; and the 3/4 solo set has about 56 to 58 pounds of tension per string Finally, if a player were really, really retentive about tension, then a player could get a set of almost exact even tension across the (finger)board by using the G string out of the S42W set, and the DAE strings out of the 4/4 solo set. If you use one of the 4/4 sets, the E string is long enough that if you are mounting them on a 106cm bass, I would switch out which tuner you mount the E string on so it doesn't break so drastically over the nut and end up with speaking length of string around the tuning post.

And then, after you play them for awhile, you can join the Dead Spiros Club!

If you want a darker, thumpier pizz, then the Bel Canto solos downtuned have about 52 pounds of tension per string. But the E string is really dark, and for jazz pizz would benefit from substituting a 4/4 solo Spiro E string in its place.

Spiro G strings still twang. I use a D'Addario Prelude G instead: it is darker and less expensive, as are all D'Addario sets. The problem is that D'Addario strings are like the little girl with the little curl - when they are good, they are very good, but when they are bad, they are horrid with absolutely no quality control, which has supposedly been a topic of improvement at the factory. On the forum are extensive threads about what to use for a G string with a set of Spiros otherwise. All these were out before T-I started making Bels in a solo set, so if it were to do all over again, I would try a Bel solo A string tuned down to G on top of the 4/4 Spiro solo DAE.

If you don't mind going up just a little bit in tension, the 3/4 3885W set is the most under-rated Spiros set out there. The tension is between S42 weich and mitt, more towards the weich, fairly even from string to string, and they are truly bulletproof. Barring unforeseeable accidents, a player should get 25 or more years out of a 3885W set. And even then, if the accident destroys the bass, the strings would probably still be playable, after extraction from the remains and remounting on another bass.

And remember, whatever you end up going with, everything goes with a Dead Spiro E string, which will literally last forever.
 
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So after trying the spiros, I' back with the D'addarios.The spirocores are a fine string,very well made. They felt like they have no mids though. They have a very fine sound but for me on my bass ,they don't cut through in the mix. They are also very elastic and they feel " slow" while playing(pizzicato). The d'addarios are maybe simpler strings but for my needs( jazz pizzicato only) they are better.They sound very " direct" if that makes sense.
As a matter of fact I' m thinking of switching to a heavier D'addario string when I have some extra $$$. Any experience with the pizzicato or orchestral series? Or heavy gauge in hybrid version?
Thanx