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Davie504 More Annoying Than Ever

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#81
lfmn16 said:
I have much respect for people that can make a positive contribution on YouTube, and there are plenty of them. I have no respect for people that make their money by playing the fool. Just my opinion; I’d rather toil in anonymity and retain my self-respect, than be famous for being an idiot.
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I think Scott Devine is one of the better contributors who has learned how to play the game, yet offers actual substance.

A lot of people knock him for the "click-bait" titles of the videos and the aggressive email marketing, but honestly, when you actually watch the video it has a lot of really great content that will make you better musically.

The title "Why 6 String Basses Suck" fulfills the click-bait game aspect of things, but when you watch the video, you learn that 6 string doesn't suck at all but there are all kinds of things you need to consider if you want to play one. And it's all valid stuff.

I've discovered lots of great artists - like Rich Brown - from watching his videos.

Rufus Philpot is another YouTube contributor that puts out amazing instructional videos.

It's definitely possible to create substance along with popularity, but that's hard. Getting views and random clicks is easier.
 
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From what I can tell, a lot of the popular yt channels I watch are getting more and more like big network content every day; tiny amounts of actual fresh content wedged between as much advertising, promotion and bloviation the viewer will tolerate.

For me that means a lot of the bigger names are getting less interesting, less valuable, more annoying and harder for me to watch. I come to yt to avoid all that, but it seems like thats where a lot of producers are headed.

I get why they do it. $. No problem with that. Just the further they go down those roads, the less I’m interested.
 
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Bijoux said:
I love YouTube as a source of information, however a lot of people feel the need to constantly create "content" even when they have nothing to say,
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This is it in a heartbeat...
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ThinCrappyTone said:
From what I can tell, a lot of the popular yt channels I watch are getting more and more like big network content every day; tiny amounts of actual fresh content wedged between as much advertising, promotion and bloviation the viewer will tolerate.

For me that means a lot of the bigger names are getting less interesting, less valuable, more annoying and harder for me to watch. I come to yt to avoid all that, but it seems like thats where a lot of producers are headed.

I get why they do it. $. No problem with that. Just the further they go down those roads, the less I’m interested.
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I'm ok with it. The videos are much shorter than "tv shows" usually and I can get interesting content in some pretty narrow fields. If I have to listen to the host plug a product here and there it's all good. There's some good information out there and a lot of it is delivered in an entertaining enough format.
 
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I love YouTube. I’ve learned some good stuff, had a laugh and been inspired but I don’t subscribe to anybody. I prefer to dip in here and there when I’m looking something in particular or just browse every now and then. I did subscribe a long time ago to Scott’s channel but it didn’t last long. I got sick if the hard sell pretty quickly.
 
#89
I used to watch Davie504 for the music. He seems more focused on memes recently. As a musician, I don’t like the change in his content. The term “BASS” or “WHATS UP SLAPPER” is kinda like saying “slappa da bass mon”. But hey, he’s made probably millions off of the bass, so respect.
 
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#90
two fingers said:
It's an income stream for him now. He has to keep upping his subscriptions so that he can get more ads. It's that simple. "Quality content" is no longer his goal. His goal is to get more eyeballs. Period.

He likely hates the charade as much as you do. But making another video is like punching the clock. He's gotta do it if he wants to maintain (or even upgrade) his lifestyle.

Those new videos aren't aimed at you.
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AND we have a thread winner!!!!

Scotty Kilmer(car guy out of Houston, Free Car Repair Videos ) is running down a similar path. He had very informative videos in his earlier years on YT and his website, many of them saved me a LOT of time and money. Now they are practically unwatchable and probably for similar reasons mentioned above but it's his "retirement gig".
 
#91
The only channels I really watched were Andertons and Scott Devine. Andertons play on their personalities too much as well, so now I look elsewhere for equipment reviews. As for Scott, I bought an Academy membership and follow the courses. They are much less marketing and much more education focussed than his YouTube stuff. It’s the content I’m after not the humour. I like Scott because he seems to be just being himself and having fun. Sometimes Andertons feels forced. Dave just isn’t entertaining for me, so I choose not to watch.
 
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I watch him, but then again, I enjoy watching everything from 1st, 2nd and 4th amendment audits to stupid game show answers. (Slap like now).

He has a following, (Slap like now), he's making a living, (slap like now), IMO he's he good bassist, (slap like now), and there's even a few tricks I've picked up from him. (Slap like now)…

Seriously... he's making a living in a way that I never would have thought of. I've got a relative that's attempting the same thing... (He goes by "butterfly pirate" on youtube) his latest video, is a trick pool shot, while in a kayak, hitting the ball past the parrot, to the opposite corner by the octopus. If I didn't know the guy, I'd think he was a little loony. Ok... I still think he's a little loony, but he's got a good heart. (But I'll watch a bass youtube over that anyday)

While I understand why people do this.... I understand that I never would.
 
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SgtHulka said:
I unsubbed from Davie504 more than a year ago for a lot of the reasons I'm going to mention here but after seeing a Reddit post that echoed a lot of my sentiments, I thought I'd post a similar opinion here with my own thoughts here not having realized how bad it's gotten.

Let me first say that I think he's a talented guy.. and I don't hate him. In this spirit, I hate the game but not him.

When he started he had some great videos... the 100 top basslines compilation was one. He used to play the bass...but now videos are 10 minutes long and he barely plays anymore.

He is now, with 5 million subscribers, perhaps the biggest bass influencer and bass media source in all forms of media to the General Public.

And reading some of the comments of his cool videos, you would see comments, like, "Impressive, but can you play bass with just one buttcheek?" Those comments were funny for a while but got old. I got tired of him and unsubbed.

Fast forward and I watched this video yesterday and it was unwatchable. Constantly begging for likes and subscribers, massive over editing treating people like they have ADD, lights and sound effects.

And what I didn't realize before is that he had never laughed in a video and since he always has headphones on so he has never revealed his ears. So as a "reward" to his audience, he reveals his laugh. And because of the headphones, he promises that at 6 million subscribers, he will reveal what his ears look like. I don't know what this says necessarily about human behavior or what but it seems pathetic.

Like I said I don't hate him and I realize he's just playing the game... perhaps he's gotten a few people to pick up the bass and learn the instrument and for that I'm grateful. But what he has become isn't doing us any favors. At this point he's almost a comic book character and is the main representative to the general public about what a bass player is. If you mention in conversation to an acquaintance that you play bass, your response is very likely to be, oh yeah I know that guy davie504 from YouTube.... meh.

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Seems like you’re pretty dramatically overestimating his influence on the general public: very few people outside of the music community are even aware he exists, and as you can see from the replies some folks IN the music community don’t even know who he is.

What he does has next to no influence on the public perception of what I do: if anyone is to blame for that it’s probably Paul Rudd for saying “schlappa da bass mahn!” in that one movie, or whoever wrote the Seinfeld theme ;)
 
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MDBass said:
Seems like you’re pretty dramatically overestimating his influence on the general public: very few people outside of the music community are even aware he exists, and as you can see from the replies some folks IN the music community don’t even know who he is.

What he does has next to no influence on the public perception of what I do: if anyone is to blame for that it’s probably Paul Rudd for saying “schlappa da bass mahn!” in that one movie, or whoever wrote the Seinfeld theme ;)
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5.2 subscribers... (I'm not one of them.) I'd say, to appreciate what he does... you have to watch a lot worse.
I'd compare him to a spinal tap CD, but I really like spinal tap. :)
 
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