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Davie504 More Annoying Than Ever

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Everyone only has just so many original creative ideas in them or just so much information they need to share. Inevitably, if you are forced to keep churning out stuff, it becomes repetitive or degrades into drivel. This guy is just following the pattern. Since being a bit annoying is part of his schtick, it's just that much worse.
 
Constantly begging for likes and subscribers...

That's on Youtube, not the creators. YouTube imposes monthly quotas for videos viewed and subscribers added. You could already have five million subscribers and every one of your videos gets twenty million views, but if you don't add enough new subscribers by the end of January, Google drops you from the AdSense revenue share program in February, and you're suddenly making no money from any videos (Google, however, will continue to). It's a treadmill.
 
Being insular is nothing to be shouting or be proud about...
I didn't type in all caps, nor did I say I was proud of never having heard of him. One can't know about everybody who's doing everything everywhere.

Upon further reflection I think he has come up in my feed before, but I ultimately gravitated towards something else on the list that seemed to be of more interest at the time.

There's something like 99% of junk to wade thru out there to get to the 1% of good stuff. Not knocking the guy. I actually feel sorry for him having to spin that hamster wheel more than anything.
 
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It’s called PTG or “Play the Game.”

Had a client who was a program director for ESPN. Awhile back there were a lot of trash talk clips that aired just before commercial breaks on sports shows. I asked him what that was about and he said there’s a truism in the TV world that says: Nobody changes channels if what they just saw pissed them off. So they’re throwing some snotty comment up on the screen just before commercial break so that the rubes will keep sitting there and wait for the jerk to get his comeuppance from some more mature voice later in the show. That way you stayed glued to the same channel while your set box dutifully reports back to your TV provider their ads played all the way through. Something the sponsors, networks, and show hosts are anxiously waiting to here.

Problem with Davie504 is it’s basically a 1-trick pony show. Yeah wow! This guy can slap a bass faster and better than most players probably spank the monkey!!!

But twenty or so shows into it and what new revelations are forthcoming? Answer: nada. So then you start the challenges to mix it up and make it fun.

And those soon morph into throwdowns when polite challenges start getting old. And before you know it, it’s “pro” wrestling all over. Y’know, 1-on-1 becomes 2-on-1, then tag team, then bunkhouse stampedes, then cage matches, and so on further up the ridiculous scale.

Sad.

But that’s “entertainment” folks.

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The guy is a monster player, but his videos can be very annoying. I've seen the same trends he's following elsewhere on YouTube, so I'm sure he's just doing what he has to to stay afloat with the advertising gods at Goggle.

The whole online advertising racket is a mystery to me. I can't really understand how anyone who wants to advertise, or the ad companies like Google et al. see any value in these ads. They must have metrics to measure the effectiveness, but I don't see it.

I can tell you that, without question, if you put an ad up in a video I'm trying to watch, my immediate response is to look for the "Skip ad" button. If there isn't one, I mute it, or open another tab until its done. If you put a popup on a page, it could say "You won a million dollars" and I'd never know it. I'll close it without reading it, or giving it a second thought. I don't know how it could ever be effective.
 
His videos were also meme-full even "back then" when they were short. Now he is a major (judging by number of subs) youtube "content creator", whatever that means, and with that you get all what you described in the first post. And he's not the only one like that, there's many more, he even did crossover/collaboration videos with some of them.
 
That's on Youtube, not the creators. YouTube imposes monthly quotas for videos viewed and subscribers added. You could already have five million subscribers and every one of your videos gets twenty million views, but if you don't add enough new subscribers by the end of January, Google drops you from the AdSense revenue share program in February, and you're suddenly making no money from any videos (Google, however, will continue to). It's a treadmill.
I don't believe that they force you to grow the channel at a particular pace. Can you verify where you got this information?
 
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I never enjoyed Davie504s playing or videos.

I’m not saying he isn’t talented or that he can’t play. In my opinion the whole experience is stale, flavorless, and the only point to it seems to be “look what I can do”. To sum it up I find his goals, aspirations, and playing is not very musical.

Additionally, YouTube itself can be a great tool for supplemental material in addition to lessons but I can’t understand how or why anyone would rely on that for a primary source of music education. YouTube is not personalized, flexible, understanding, or motivating (also you make no real connections and get no networking accomplished).

Davie504 may have inspired someone to get into playing bass which is great but I almost guarantee they’ll just learn slap bass and focus on showing off rather than learning how to be functional bass player (which is becoming more relevant every day)
 
I personally get a kick out of him for what it is; a humorous distraction with some bass content. As any business (which is what it is when he's raking in ~$600k in annual earnings) he had to expand his audience beyond just bass players. With any expansion, you'll lose some of your early acolytes but that's a risk he's been willing to take on to much success (albeit likely fleeting). My 12-year-old son loves him now and we watch him together.

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I unsubbed from Davie504 more than a year ago for a lot of the reasons I'm going to mention here but after seeing a Reddit post that echoed a lot of my sentiments, I thought I'd post a similar opinion here with my own thoughts here not having realized how bad it's gotten.

Let me first say that I think he's a talented guy.. and I don't hate him. In this spirit, I hate the game but not him.

When he started he had some great videos... the 100 top basslines compilation was one. He used to play the bass...but now videos are 10 minutes long and he barely plays anymore.

He is now, with 5 million subscribers, perhaps the biggest bass influencer and bass media source in all forms of media to the General Public.

And reading some of the comments of his cool videos, you would see comments, like, "Impressive, but can you play bass with just one buttcheek?" Those comments were funny for a while but got old. I got tired of him and unsubbed.

Fast forward and I watched this video yesterday and it was unwatchable. Constantly begging for likes and subscribers, massive over editing treating people like they have ADD, lights and sound effects.

And what I didn't realize before is that he had never laughed in a video and since he always has headphones on so he has never revealed his ears. So as a "reward" to his audience, he reveals his laugh. And because of the headphones, he promises that at 6 million subscribers, he will reveal what his ears look like. I don't know what this says necessarily about human behavior or what but it seems pathetic.

Like I said I don't hate him and I realize he's just playing the game... perhaps he's gotten a few people to pick up the bass and learn the instrument and for that I'm grateful. But what he has become isn't doing us any favors. At this point he's almost a comic book character and is the main representative to the general public about what a bass player is. If you mention in conversation to an acquaintance that you play bass, your response is very likely to be, oh yeah I know that guy davie504 from YouTube.... meh.


I'm seeing this trend more and more in Youtube. I have to spend a lot more time trying to find real content. How many '10 reasons I hated the new Star Wars videos' do we really need, and this kind of idiocy seems to be creeping into the music instruction/tech stuff, now. Some of these people are actually making a living doing it, so I think they're getting a lot more pressure to constantly put out content, regardless of its quality. Never heard of davie504 before, but now I'm glad I didn't.
 
I unsubbed from Davie504 more than a year ago for a lot of the reasons I'm going to mention here but after seeing a Reddit post that echoed a lot of my sentiments, I thought I'd post a similar opinion here with my own thoughts here not having realized how bad it's gotten.

Let me first say that I think he's a talented guy.. and I don't hate him. In this spirit, I hate the game but not him.

When he started he had some great videos... the 100 top basslines compilation was one. He used to play the bass...but now videos are 10 minutes long and he barely plays anymore.

He is now, with 5 million subscribers, perhaps the biggest bass influencer and bass media source in all forms of media to the General Public.

And reading some of the comments of his cool videos, you would see comments, like, "Impressive, but can you play bass with just one buttcheek?" Those comments were funny for a while but got old. I got tired of him and unsubbed.

Fast forward and I watched this video yesterday and it was unwatchable. Constantly begging for likes and subscribers, massive over editing treating people like they have ADD, lights and sound effects.

And what I didn't realize before is that he had never laughed in a video and since he always has headphones on so he has never revealed his ears. So as a "reward" to his audience, he reveals his laugh. And because of the headphones, he promises that at 6 million subscribers, he will reveal what his ears look like. I don't know what this says necessarily about human behavior or what but it seems pathetic.

Like I said I don't hate him and I realize he's just playing the game... perhaps he's gotten a few people to pick up the bass and learn the instrument and for that I'm grateful. But what he has become isn't doing us any favors. At this point he's almost a comic book character and is the main representative to the general public about what a bass player is. If you mention in conversation to an acquaintance that you play bass, your response is very likely to be, oh yeah I know that guy davie504 from YouTube.... meh.


He should do some reviews of the newest equiptment.
 
Idk if it’s been said yet or not, but blame YouTube. The way they’ve changed their algorithms...It’s crazy. One of the newer things they’ve done is that, regardless of channel size/growth, if the video is not at least 10 minutes long it is significantly less profitable.

I don’t watch the dude, but I’m betting that he can’t make a living off of three to five minute to-the-point videos anymore. ‍
 
It’s called PTG or “Play the Game.”

Had a client who was a program director for ESPN. Awhile back there were a lot of trash talk clips that aired just before commercial breaks on sports shows. I asked him what that was about and he said there’s a truism in the TV world that says: Nobody changes channels if what they just saw pissed them off. So they’re throwing some snotty comment up on the screen just before commercial break so that the rubes will keep sitting there and wait for the jerk to get his comeuppance from some more mature voice later in the show. That way you stayed glued to the same channel while your set box dutifully reports back to your TV provider their ads played all the way through. Something the sponsors, networks, and show hosts are anxiously waiting to here.

Problem with Davie504 is it’s basically a 1-trick pony show. Yeah wow! This guy can slap a bass faster and better than most players probably spank the monkey!!!

But twenty or so shows into it and what new revelations are forthcoming? Answer: nada. So then you start the challenges to mix it up and make it fun.

And those soon morph into throwdowns when polite challenges start getting old. And before you know it, it’s “pro” wrestling all over. Y’know, 1-on-1 becomes 2-on-1, then tag team, then bunkhouse stampedes, then cage matches, and so on further up the ridiculous scale.

Sad.

But that’s “entertainment” folks.

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But see the problem with the PTG approach is just what happened with me and ESPN. I just plain stopped turning the channel on. I started watching ESPN in 1981 because I love sports. Watched every night and once they started that nonsense and more, it was over. I rarely turn it on any longer except to watch a game or something and then it's turned off as soon as it's done. Like most things, once Disney gets involved it turns to garbage.

As far as guys I like and find interesting and entertaining and gives some knowledge the Top of my list is Rick Beato and Scotts Bass Lessons. I like those guys quite a bit. There are a couple others but those guys I'll check out nearly all their stuff.

Like always though, I retain the right to "change the channel".
 
I can give or take Davie's videos. Some are REALLY good and worth the watch.

It's funny to see the terribly critical posts from some of the TBers here. I'll say this. He's a VERY talented bass player. He is successfully making a living using the bass guitar as his tool of trade. Millions of people know him by name or image. Plus his hands are so big he makes a 34" bass look like a ukelele.

I can't make any of those claims so my hat's off to him.
 
I unsubbed from Davie504 more than a year ago for a lot of the reasons I'm going to mention here but after seeing a Reddit post that echoed a lot of my sentiments, I thought I'd post a similar opinion here with my own thoughts here not having realized how bad it's gotten.

Let me first say that I think he's a talented guy.. and I don't hate him. In this spirit, I hate the game but not him.

When he started he had some great videos... the 100 top basslines compilation was one. He used to play the bass...but now videos are 10 minutes long and he barely plays anymore.

He is now, with 5 million subscribers, perhaps the biggest bass influencer and bass media source in all forms of media to the General Public.

And reading some of the comments of his cool videos, you would see comments, like, "Impressive, but can you play bass with just one buttcheek?" Those comments were funny for a while but got old. I got tired of him and unsubbed.

Fast forward and I watched this video yesterday and it was unwatchable. Constantly begging for likes and subscribers, massive over editing treating people like they have ADD, lights and sound effects.

And what I didn't realize before is that he had never laughed in a video and since he always has headphones on so he has never revealed his ears. So as a "reward" to his audience, he reveals his laugh. And because of the headphones, he promises that at 6 million subscribers, he will reveal what his ears look like. I don't know what this says necessarily about human behavior or what but it seems pathetic.

Like I said I don't hate him and I realize he's just playing the game... perhaps he's gotten a few people to pick up the bass and learn the instrument and for that I'm grateful. But what he has become isn't doing us any favors. At this point he's almost a comic book character and is the main representative to the general public about what a bass player is. If you mention in conversation to an acquaintance that you play bass, your response is very likely to be, oh yeah I know that guy davie504 from YouTube.... meh.





He's dumbed down his style for the masses/lower common denominator

You aren't the mass.

Apparently you were educated well.

Go play some bass!
 
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