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Deathmetal question

#21
As other people have explained better than I'm about to, Satanism isn't worship of the devil, it's basically egoism with ritual. Most real-world satanists don't listen to black metal, nor do most black metal musicians consider themselves satanists. Early black metal bands were involved in burning churches as a protest and wanted a return to the culture and traditions of Scandinavia, but since Satyricon and Cradle of Filth got major label contracts in the late '90s those sentiments have basically been extinguished in the name of making money.

As for the old farts complaining that you can't make out the lyrics clearly - your older relatives probably had the same complaint about Elvis.
 
#22
hbarcat said:
A Night on Bald Mountain by Modest Mussorgsky is one example of many and the demonic content was illustrated in the film Fantasia:
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That's one of my favorite songs of all time and I never knew the name of it! Thanks!

Back to the OP...music is no more and no less anything than what you make of it - one man's death is another man's thrash is another man's heavy metal. Obviously certain topics seem to be prevalent in certain genres across the board, but I wouldn't be so narrow-minded about ANYTHING in this day and age where EVERYTHING is possible.


OctoberMooN said:
The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he did not exist. - Roger "Verbal" Kint
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#23
Or in the words of possesed's Larry La Londe:
"You would have to be crazy to belive in all that satan stuff" or something like that.

Most those guys, they just sing whatever they want to. Most of them just try to make it sound scary. I laugh at how over the top it is sometimes.
 
#26
Satanic? LOL, it carries about as much religious weight as the care bears.

For the most part it consists of unbelievably disgusting/misogynistic/sophomoric nonsense over masturbatory/unmusical/ stop-time lurches and machine gun spooges, apparantly just to show off that they can.

Then they make sure the "singer" is an unintelligible mess akin to the cookie monster chugging motor oil, but print the lyrics in the liners so the zit factories listening to it can still feel like they're doing something "naughty".

Think gangsta rap, but directed at the white losers. :bassist:

Kidding kidding!:hiding:

a lot of the reason why we play death metal is just the striving for like a new "alpha" music.....like taking something so far to the extreme in technicality and agression that nothing can ever measure up. That's why I dig it.
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Actually, that bit right there is the best argument in favor of it's appeal I've ever heard.
 
#27
bigfatbass said:
Satanic? LOL, it carries about as much religious weight as the care bears.

For the most part it consists of unbelievably disgusting/misogynistic/sophomoric nonsense over masturbatory/unmusical/ stop-time lurches and machine gun spooges, apparantly just to show off that they can.

Then they make sure the "singer" is an unintelligible mess akin to the cookie monster chugging motor oil, but print the lyrics in the liners so the zit factories listening to it can still feel like they're doing something "naughty".

Think gangsta rap, but directed at the white losers. :bassist:
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maybe you should just go back to watching your softcore porn.
and maybe even pick up a napalm death album and read the lyrics out, because you don't know the first thing about the genre
 
#29
bigfatbass said:
Satanic? LOL, it carries about as much religious weight as the care bears.

For the most part it consists of unbelievably disgusting/misogynistic/sophomoric nonsense over masturbatory/unmusical/ stop-time lurches and machine gun spooges, apparantly just to show off that they can.

Then they make sure the "singer" is an unintelligible mess akin to the cookie monster chugging motor oil, but print the lyrics in the liners so the zit factories listening to it can still feel like they're doing something "naughty".

Think gangsta rap, but directed at the white losers. :bassist:

Kidding kidding!:hiding:



Actually, that bit right there is the best argument in favor of it's appeal I've ever heard.
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This is extremely ignorant. I wouldn't comment on a genre if I didn't know anything about it. Maybe you should do the same.
 
#30
To me, I personally love the heaviness, then energy, and the life in metal, especially death and tech metal. To me, they are pioneers of a misunderstood genre.

I find most metal bands to be incredibly warm, welcoming nice guys who are actually EXCITED to talk with their fans. I've given input on some larger (granted, not big by any means, but good enough that they did not need to talk to some random guy at a show) bands who seriously listened to what I said, and thanked me for the "creative input."

I guess to me, it all stems out of love. They love playing fast, technically advanced music, they love running around the stage, and most importantly, they love the music. No musician in their right mind would play metal if it wasn't what they felt deep down. The market is terrible, the attendance is generally bad, and it's hard as crap to play. They're the ones in the trenches if you ask me. :)
 
#31
bassfacekevin said:
To me, I personally love the heaviness, then energy, and the life in metal, especially death and tech metal. To me, they are pioneers of a misunderstood genre.

I find most metal bands to be incredibly warm, welcoming nice guys who are actually EXCITED to talk with their fans. I've given input on some larger (granted, not big by any means, but good enough that they did not need to talk to some random guy at a show) bands who seriously listened to what I said, and thanked me for the "creative input."

I guess to me, it all stems out of love. They love playing fast, technically advanced music, they love running around the stage, and most importantly, they love the music. No musician in their right mind would play metal if it wasn't what they felt deep down. The market is terrible, the attendance is generally bad, and it's hard as crap to play. They're the ones in the trenches if you ask me. :)
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we like our crappertainment because you'll need to care to try and corrupt it!:ninja:
 
#34
Some bands are of course stanic. Though extremely few. I don't know so much about death metal since I'm not Swedish, but to take the fairly close cousin black metal, which is often considered more stanic, many bands just look dangerous/satanic and play on their immage (Dimmu Borgir).

However some bands thorugh black metal history has had if not satanic memebers, members with wrecked moral values. Take for example the band Mayhem (central in the black metal scene in the 1980s, when black metal as we know it now surfaced), whose history is bloody. There, the vocalist commited suicide writing in his suicidenote "sorry for all the blood, but the knife didnt seem grand enough to finish the work" (he used a shotgun in the end). The main guitarist, upon finding the body, ran off to get a camera to take pictures so they could have the grotesque scene on their next album as cover.

Next, Varg Viknes killed the mentioned gutarist for accoring to the Norwegian court of law no reason at all. He is the man behind the one-man project Burzum which is I understand fairly well known in europe/america, but barely heard of here because it is banned/not wanted in music shops due to Viknes' history. Now I dont know wether they were satanists, but some would probably say they were.

Dimmu Borgir however, isnt satanic at all. They may appear so, but that is only a part of their immage. Also their texts my suggest they are, but many many bands write lyrics quite incoherent with thier own actual beliefs. Same with Satyricon I expect. And a load of other black metal bands like Immortal, Ensalved and 1347.
 
#37
jeremyr said:
#3. Is this satanic praise and worship music???
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Some, but not all. Morbid Angel is an example of what I would call "worship" music in this context as they sing about the rituals and history of the religion, quoting key events (e.g. the song "Fall From Grace") and they don't really do it in an offensive way against other religions like bands such as Deicide do.
 

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