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Deep thought
- Thread starter JimmyM
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I know that technology as a whole, and specifically musical instrument modelling tech, has really come a long way in the last couple of years, but maybe because I'm an older guy, and resist change, I just can't buy into it. A few years ago, I A/B'd a Vox AC15 against a Vox AD50VT modelling amp, set to the "AC15 mode". Not even close, and I mean, not even remotely close. And, that was Vox modelling one of their own amps!. I'm not convinced, and if the SVT tone is what I was after, I'd carry the 90 lb head with the 110 lb cab.
RickenBoogie, this would be a great time to quote your tag line: "tone is everything". For a lot of people cab weight is everything, or bass weight for that matter, or string spacing, but for me, tone is everything.
I look at my VT Bass pedal as another tool in order to get the proper tone for the job. I don't always need an SVT sound, but when it is called for, it's nice to be able to get pretty dang close with a tiny pedal instead of lugging a huge beast of an amp around. I am more likely to use it for those small instances where I would not bother with the amp.
It's great for when you are doing a small setup and running direct only, but you need that sound. Grab the gig bag and go.
It's great for when you are doing a small setup and running direct only, but you need that sound. Grab the gig bag and go.
Most likely.
Here's another question I had - Do you guys think that more bassists have been turned on to the "Ampeg tone" because of the popularity of the VT Bass? I tend to think so.
Seems to be the case, but alto of people seem to be sacking off actually getting any Ampeg in favour of getting a pedal/DI that'll emulate it well enough for them and stick it through a loud SS setup so I'm sure Ampeg themselves aren't too pleased 
Seems to be the case, but alto of people seem to be sacking off actually getting any Ampeg in favour of getting a pedal/DI that'll emulate it well enough for them and stick it through a loud SS setup so I'm sure Ampeg themselves aren't too pleased
I'm close to doing that now...
i'll take my Tour 700 over an SVT anyday...
whaaaat? i just don't like SVT's...not my thing
but to answer Jimbo, i think it is kind of neat that there are ways to *emulate* the sound, but i mean if you want the real thing there's only one way to have it...
you and the rolling rock feet dude can have your Tour 700's and your DB750's, but if you wanna know where that extra uber amazing sweet bass sound is coming from, it's Jimmy, johnk, and me, we will be over here with our SVTs
Jimmy opens another can-o-worms, musta got bored at 2AM eh? I don't know if the masses are able to handle such a philosophical question at 2AM.
I can quote some laws: The first one is Purity of Emisions aw never mind.
Pure AMPEG TONE requires an AMPEG in the signal path somewhere. And no realy UB, just because you didn't like the Stomp Box doesn't mean you wouldnt like a real SVT.
Reminds me of childhood, mom takes a pitcher, runs semi cold city water into it and mixes a bunch of powdered milk in and mixes away... HERE!
Whoa, where'd the freeking cow go in this equasion?
You got a man's job to do... Do you back your nice shiney new F-550 Crewcab (now I'm dreaming) under the 40 foot RV trailer and wind her down or do you pull in your neighbor's rusted out Chevy LUV and watch the thing squish like a coke can?
The purist says, fool me if you can, but on load out I will see you're cheaten. Been over at Harley tech talk for a couple days... Wife says OMG I'm married to a blogger! I say... What's that? IS that good?
BOB
I can quote some laws: The first one is Purity of Emisions aw never mind.
Pure AMPEG TONE requires an AMPEG in the signal path somewhere. And no realy UB, just because you didn't like the Stomp Box doesn't mean you wouldnt like a real SVT.
Reminds me of childhood, mom takes a pitcher, runs semi cold city water into it and mixes a bunch of powdered milk in and mixes away... HERE!
Whoa, where'd the freeking cow go in this equasion?
You got a man's job to do... Do you back your nice shiney new F-550 Crewcab (now I'm dreaming) under the 40 foot RV trailer and wind her down or do you pull in your neighbor's rusted out Chevy LUV and watch the thing squish like a coke can?
The purist says, fool me if you can, but on load out I will see you're cheaten. Been over at Harley tech talk for a couple days... Wife says OMG I'm married to a blogger! I say... What's that? IS that good?
BOB
Speaking as someone whose mom forced that powdered crap on me growing up, I think I understand what you're staying. On the other hand, now that I'm older and mature (and have recovered from two operations caused by dragging heavy bass gear around), the tone of a SVT would have to be PDG to warrant the load. I just added a power amp to boost watts on my Genz Benz ShuttleMAX12. Now I know what "opening up" the cab means. And I like it. But I'm still grumbling about the extra 21 pounds for the amp, 2 pounds for rack ears, and 12 pounds for a rack (total: 41 lbs for the "head"). Thought I had jettisoned SKBs once and for all! But an SVT would double everything again and it's hard to believe anything would be worth dragging that lead around.
A VT pedal can do a wonderful job when used in a close miking situation in getting an SVT like tone.
No way you're going to convinve me that a small combo with that pedal sounds like a big 8x10 cabinet pushing many cubic feet of air in a normal sized room without PA support.
However, a VT pedal and X brand amp with a big cabinet is another story altogether.
No way you're going to convinve me that a small combo with that pedal sounds like a big 8x10 cabinet pushing many cubic feet of air in a normal sized room without PA support.
However, a VT pedal and X brand amp with a big cabinet is another story altogether.
Rickett Customs
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UB, feel your pain, but if you have caught my standard line refering to moving SVT. Get new WIfe Girlfreind from Bulgarian shotput team...
She strong, built like traktor... She'll get the gear moved for you... ALso looks like MAD DOG VASHON's sister, but what the heck that's what groupies are for. Here's one of mine.
UB, feel your pain, but if you have caught my standard line refering to moving SVT. Get new WIfe Girlfreind from Bulgarian shotput team...
She strong, built like traktor... She'll get the gear moved for you... ALso looks like MAD DOG VASHON's sister, but what the heck that's what groupies are for. Here's one of mine.
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Vivian or Luna Vachon? I kind of remember Vivian as being hot in her day, but Luna looks like someone set her face on fire and put it out with a shovel.
Wow somebody who knows who mad dog was... You have now been elevated to a whole new icon status level...
He also lived in MSP... Major player in AWA. One of my girlfriends was Larry Hennig's neice. I almost went AWA considered it a lot... Verne's school was just a few miles west of where I grew up... BTW I am not a huge wrestling fan, never watch it these days... BUt give me a good Crusher, the man who made milwaukee famous carrying a keg into the arena vs Verne match and I'd watch forever.
BTW my Dad and Uncle (uncle was larry hennig look alike also named LARRY) Groupies called out LARRY while dad and him were leaving the Calhoun Beach Manor about 1965 and larry turned around... Well those guys were out all night, like never came home....
I really thought that was cool, Mom like usual didn't talk to him for about a month... My Dad pulled that crap all the time. NEVER went to wrestling again.
BOB
He also lived in MSP... Major player in AWA. One of my girlfriends was Larry Hennig's neice. I almost went AWA considered it a lot... Verne's school was just a few miles west of where I grew up... BTW I am not a huge wrestling fan, never watch it these days... BUt give me a good Crusher, the man who made milwaukee famous carrying a keg into the arena vs Verne match and I'd watch forever.
BTW my Dad and Uncle (uncle was larry hennig look alike also named LARRY) Groupies called out LARRY while dad and him were leaving the Calhoun Beach Manor about 1965 and larry turned around... Well those guys were out all night, like never came home....
I really thought that was cool, Mom like usual didn't talk to him for about a month... My Dad pulled that crap all the time. NEVER went to wrestling again.
BOB
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