It was probably the best thing on SNL at that time, just about the only thing that would make me lol
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Deep thought
- Thread starter JimmyM
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It was probably the best thing on SNL at that time, just about the only thing that would make me lol
So after reading this thread, I've come to a couple conclusions:
1. Jack Handey was alternately hilarious or stupid.
2. Everyone's already spoiled by the gear we have now and have all too quickly forgotten that it wasn't always this way.
3. You look way cooler standing in front of an SVT or B-15 than you do with a VT pedal into a micro rig.
1. Jack Handey was alternately hilarious or stupid.
2. Everyone's already spoiled by the gear we have now and have all too quickly forgotten that it wasn't always this way.
3. You look way cooler standing in front of an SVT or B-15 than you do with a VT pedal into a micro rig.
I'm arriving a bit late to this thread, but...
Jimmy first intrigued me with his thread way back when he posted two bass lines, one played on an SVT and one on a VT, and had us all guess. When most of us guessed wrong the results were followed by the usual flood of excuses about why we all voted the way we did when we really knew what was what but just voted wrong. Riiiggghhhhttt!
So, I bought a VT Bass pedal back then and have been running the tone controls on my amp totally flat since. I've come to rely on my pedal board for 100% of my tone so much that I'm selling my amp and am in the process of building a custom set-up to go with my VT Bass.
I'm going with an all-in-one design with an 850 watt Carvin power amp, two 10's and one 15 with neodimium mags. The tens and the 15 will be completely sealed from each other and vented as if they are two seperate cabs. The thing is only going to weigh about 45 pounds when it's done, wood and hardware included.
So yes, the VT Bass pedal gets me close enough to AMPEG tone for rock n roll.
I'll be posting pics of the process in a thread in the amp section soon.
BTW Jimmy, thanks again for posting that first thread comparing an SVT and a VT.
Jimmy first intrigued me with his thread way back when he posted two bass lines, one played on an SVT and one on a VT, and had us all guess. When most of us guessed wrong the results were followed by the usual flood of excuses about why we all voted the way we did when we really knew what was what but just voted wrong. Riiiggghhhhttt!
So, I bought a VT Bass pedal back then and have been running the tone controls on my amp totally flat since. I've come to rely on my pedal board for 100% of my tone so much that I'm selling my amp and am in the process of building a custom set-up to go with my VT Bass.
I'm going with an all-in-one design with an 850 watt Carvin power amp, two 10's and one 15 with neodimium mags. The tens and the 15 will be completely sealed from each other and vented as if they are two seperate cabs. The thing is only going to weigh about 45 pounds when it's done, wood and hardware included.
So yes, the VT Bass pedal gets me close enough to AMPEG tone for rock n roll.
I'll be posting pics of the process in a thread in the amp section soon.
BTW Jimmy, thanks again for posting that first thread comparing an SVT and a VT.
If only I got a kickback when guys like you bought one over that thread...I'd probably have made a couple hundred bucks
+1 Kind of like riding a motorcycle. Sure, there are plenty of nice bikes out, but there's nothing quite like riding a Harley!
I kinda toyed with the idea of buying a Ampeg head once but when playing in clubs nobody is going to be miking my amp anyway (although there is one soundguy that does mike me occasionally) so the VT bass will probably sound as good as the real thing, maybe better? unless Ampegs have amazing line out signals that capture the full tone into the desk. I still have to find out what it will sound like through my new 810 : )
edit; not sure if it's spelled 'miking' or 'micing'
edit; not sure if it's spelled 'miking' or 'micing'
I've done enough with both to say for sure that it won't sound better, but as good through a PA as the real thing is a definite as far as I'm concerned.
I agree with the VT pedal going into a PA. I still prefer my real SVT to my solid state Hartke with the VT in front of it. There is still a different feel with a real tube amp, but if I was hooking up to a PA, it wouldn't matter. Also the VT pedal into the SVT sounds great.
Shucks, I may be the only one on TB, but I had and sold a Sans Amp DI and same with a VT pedal. To me, they seemed to just cloud up my signal and where just another thing to take care of. Great for going direct into a board, but not into an amp. My experience.
I think they are awesome if you can bypass the entire preamp of your amp. I agree that they muddy things up when adding another thing to the chain. That is why I am looking for a simple power amp to run mine into. I want it to be my preamp and not be a preamp on top of another preamp. I like Simple. Are you listening Tech21? I don't think you are since you never returned or commented on my emails. :scowl:
Obviously my RADAR is still working. In the living room is the bass rig... Now sitting in the middle of the dining room is my 79 Shovelhead engine fresh out of LEO HESS's shop.
It looks so pretty I told the wife it should sit in the middle of the living room floor, she looked at it all pissy and said you can have the dinning room floor...
The bill $9800 the sub woofers are on hold till I get the rest of the bike restored.
BOB OUT (of money)
Isn't it totally weird how an 810 looks cool on stage, but a micro-rig looks really cool on the way back to your car at 2 AM?
And who the heck is Jack Handy?
Jack Handey was a writer for Saturday Night Live and National Lampoon. He used to do a column called "Deep Thoughts" where he'd write a series of one or two line random thoughts that were often bizarre but usually pretty funny.
http://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/
http://www.deepthoughtsbyjackhandey.com/
FL or FX?
My 81 FXB has been in the basement since buying an FLHT 5 years ago. Trying to decide whether to put it back to stock and get a collector plate or not. I feel bad for it sitting un-used for so long.
To stay somewhat on topic, yeah it's pretty amazing that you can cop the tone of a screaming SVT with a pedal - but it doesn't replace the FEEL of standing in front of the real deal when it hits the point of breaking up.
If you can't use that kind of volume, that pedal, a micro head, and a 1x12 or 2 looks REALLY good
You have me sold on the VT pedal. It is amazing that it can be modeled so closely with analog.
There is nothing I hate more than seeing a family torn apart by something as simple as wild dogs. Jack Handy
There is nothing I hate more than seeing a family torn apart by something as simple as wild dogs. Jack Handy
I hear ya, however the knobs are too sensitive. I've also tried recording directly with the pedal, and had better results using another preamp. Just my experience.
