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Demeter VTBP M 800D @ NAMM

#321
I like the subtle EQ approach as it makes my DI signal easier the work with. In the past I've battled with finding that annoying, low, boomy midrange just so I could cut it out hence the lack of a boost here is fine by me. If I find I need some occasional color I could reincorporate the Whirlwind Bass Ten back into my board I guess. ...but if I can keep it simple I will.
 
#323
I think there's a wait for a few more to ship. I talked with James last week and if my memory is reliable, I think he said about 20+ were spoken for hence a 4-6 week wait, but somebody here a few days later bumped it up to 6-8 weeks so maybe there's been an influx.

When I get my ear wrapped around one I'll certainly be offering some sort of a review.
 
#327
There is a tiny fan about the size of a quarter that is mounted inside pointed directly on the part that gets hot. They also drilled about five holes in either side of the enclosure and installed little plugs with vent holes in them.

You can turn the fan on and off via a switch in the back.

I have mistakenly left it off during rehearsal once and it never even went into shutdown. It got pretty warm to the touch, but didn't shutdown. Demeter says if it ever does go into thermal shutdown, just turn it off for a few minutes and it should be fine, no permanent damage.

I understand from Kjung that the De-Monique does not even have a fan at all.
 
#328
MVE said:
There is a tiny fan about the size of a quarter that is mounted inside pointed directly on the part that gets hot. They also drilled about five holes in either side of the enclosure and installed little plugs with vent holes in them.

You can turn the fan on and off via a switch in the back.

I have mistakenly left it off during rehearsal once and it never even went into shutdown. It got pretty warm to the touch, but didn't shutdown. Demeter says if it ever does go into thermal shutdown, just turn it off for a few minutes and it should be fine, no permanent damage.

I understand from Kjung that the De-Monique does not even have a fan at all.
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Cool beans.

Thanks
 
#329
No problem.
Here is a pic.

I'm not at home to check, but I'm pretty sure I put the arrow in the right place. lol

Anyway, its a very small fan.
 

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#330
MVE said:
There is a tiny fan about the size of a quarter that is mounted inside pointed directly on the part that gets hot. They also drilled about five holes in either side of the enclosure and installed little plugs with vent holes in them.

You can turn the fan on and off via a switch in the back.

I have mistakenly left it off during rehearsal once and it never even went into shutdown. It got pretty warm to the touch, but didn't shutdown. Demeter says if it ever does go into thermal shutdown, just turn it off for a few minutes and it should be fine, no permanent damage.

I understand from Kjung that the De-Monique does not even have a fan at all.
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My De-Monique has a fan and a small switch for it on the outside of the back panel. I talked to James Demeter about it and he said it's only necessary to flip it on when the temperature is really hot. I never run it in the studio, and even after it's been on for several hours the chassis is just a bit warm.
 
#332
Groove Doctor said:
Anyone use a Rob Allen bass with this Demeter?

Anyone done an A/B comparison with the Monique/Minnie set up?
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I can only speak for the De-Monique part of your question, which includes Monique preamp and the 800-D power amp.

Here's a surf/rock demo called we recently cut called Link Removed. I used a Rob Allen Solid 4 with groundwounds, played with a pick and recorded through the De-Monique DI. Includes an [sfx] Sound Micro-Fuzz pedal.

Here's a jazz tune, Blue Bossa, recorded with a stereo mic at a casual wedding gig in December. I used De-Monique with a Rob Allen Deep 4 fretless with black nylon tapewounds projected through a Greenboy Audio Fearless 110 cab.
 
#334
I believe somebody did a/b them in this thread a few pages back.

I think his conclusions were that the VTBP was cleaner and more modern hi-fi, while the Monique was thicker and deeper, but missing the glassy highs of the VTBP.

Also, to answer you other question, the my 201/800 does not have a line-in after the pre, nor does the VTBP800, to my knowledge. You might be able to insert into the FX return, but I am not exactly sure where that is in the signal chain; I believe it might be after the first stage but in front of the eq stage.

However, I bet Demeter could fix it up with a line-in if you asked.
 
#338
Post #254. Demeter vs Monique comparison.

Molan said:
So I got about half an hour to play the Demeter against a Monique last night. Not enough time to use anything other than one bass (Lull MV4) and one cab (Bergantino CN212).

Initial comparison was that the Demeter was cleaner and brighter even with some treble backed off and in 'dark' mode. The Monique had a lovely low end though! full! deep and powerful.

Tweaking tone controls I found I could make Monique sing more by pulling out the sensitivity and winding it up to about 2 o'clock.

Conversely I managed to start building the low end of the Demeter by selecting the 120hz frequency and boosting bass to about 2-3 o'clock. I also had to cut the tweeter a little more on the CN to get a sound I preferred more.

At the end of this brief test I was veering more strongly to the Demeter (which is where I thought I'd be headed so no surprises here). However, that low end of the Monique was just lovely.

I think it might be possibly for the Demeter to get a lot of the sounds I like from the Monique with more tone tweaking but I'm not sure Monique could get the crisp high end of the Demeter.

Both were uniformly excellent though!
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Answered my own question. I love google.
 
#340
Got my new Demeter, and finally had some time to set it up this morning. Very clean, lots of oomph with the Eden cab. I'm still working on the sweet spots for the eq, but it's definitely nice and bright.

So far, it seems that even pretty extreme settings on one band of eq stay part of the whole, and don't scream out unevenly, as most tone sections do. Maybe I'm not expressing that very well, but the overall sound stays well integrated. I like the dark setting. To my ears it evens out the sound of my bass a bit. (Roscoe SKB with Barts.)

McFarlin, thanks for the youtube show. Lee Sklar's settings do look bright, but may be a good start in an on stage mix.

I'm playing this weekend, so I'll have a chance to hear it on stage in a classic rock gig.
 

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