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- Thread starter rodv66
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I’m not familiar with that amp... does it not have a DI out?
As far as your question, I own a JDI, a Sansamp BDDI v.2, and a Sansamp VT Bass DI. You’ll be fine with any of those options. What bass are you using?
Does your amp have an effects loop? If so, you can put your DI in the loop and at least get your Orange’s preamp in your signal. If you don’t have an effects loop or DI on the amp, then you won’t get the Orange through anything other than your cab unfortunately.
My JDI is great, but honestly I’d just stick with with your Sansamp. It all depends on what you are doing with the gear. Are you running DI to a mixing board while using your amp and cab as a stage monitor?
The AD200B does not have a DI or Effects Loop, but it does have a Slave Out that is derived from 4 ohm speaker out. I believe the Slave Out is line level signal, so you need a DI with about a 30dB pad. Also keep in mind any adjustments made to the amp's controls will effect the level coming from the Slave Out. Essentially it will be almost the same as running a Post DI.
Was reading that you can run a radial JDI or countryman 85 from the amp to cab. Two speaker cables and an xlr to the board. Might go that route.
Just keep in mind while the passive JDI sounds great, it does reduce the signal level quite a bit. I use one but a I crank the signal before going to it with a compressor. I'd be interested in trying the active J48 and see how the clean reproduction of this sounded. I have a Sansamp as well, it's a good pedal but it definitely colors you sound and can add noise depending how you adjust it. Unfortunately, I can describe most of these pedals but it's hard to recommend one because it's really a preference thing. Knowing what I do now, I'd probably try a J48 bc it relieves the signal loss challenges of the JDI and wouldnt color the sound - I'd leave it to the house guy to adjust from there. If money were no option Id get all 3.
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- Feb 12, 2006
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The JDI’s output is just about the perfect mic by level output that any sound guy worth his salt should be happy with. If the level is low, there is something else wrong.
Yes you can do that with both of those DIs. The Radial has super basic built-in speaker simulation when you engage the pad switches necessary to use it off the speaker tap. The Countryman does not have any cab sim, and this sounds a lot “rougher” off the speaker tap.
I’d start with the JDI. That way you can use it off the speaker as above, but if you don’t like the sound of the speaker sim you can use it off the line level Slave Output as mentioned instead, which wouldn’t engage the tone filters.
EDIT** Just realized what you're saying. This is how I'd approach it, still feel like the Bass Butler could be a cool tool for you as well. Best of luck!
Sansamp should be fine, what I'd do is dial in a sound you're happy with FOH receiving on the Sansamp, and run the parallel out to your amp so that you know what the FOH is getting and you're not coloring your signal going into the Orange. If they want to mic the cab and blend it with the Sansamp DI signal you'd be pretty set imo. IF you really like the Orange sound and want that going to FOH might be worth looking into something like the Bass Butler.
Sansamp should be fine, what I'd do is dial in a sound you're happy with FOH receiving on the Sansamp, and run the parallel out to your amp so that you know what the FOH is getting and you're not coloring your signal going into the Orange. If they want to mic the cab and blend it with the Sansamp DI signal you'd be pretty set imo. IF you really like the Orange sound and want that going to FOH might be worth looking into something like the Bass Butler.
I run the Sansamp as a pedal. I mostly play in a Maiden tribute and use the Harris model with cab SIM. I just got a countryman DI from a forum member and going to use that for the most part, running it off my cab. For the small investment, will be good to have that as an option. I once had an amp break onstage and used a darkglass to run through the board into the monitor. Never a bad Idea to have a backup.
I use the less expenive Radial Pro DI, which sounds great and is passive so one less thing to worry about. I have two, one stays in the gig bag 24/7 with my DI-less amp head, the other gets tossed into the bass gig bag when I will be using a provided amp just in case.
I've used a Countryman with an old tube in-between the amp and cab before. Worked fine from my end on stage.
I have heard that if you have a lot of dirt in your sound, this can start to sound harsh because the Countryman doesn't roll off the highs (like a speaker cab). This is mostly a sound man/PA issue at that point.
Lucky to have our own sound guy who works some major shows and arenas. He's the brother of one guy in our band, so we lucked out. Sure he's seen this trick before. I remember the old days of plugging these type of boxes into the front from my bass to the amp.
- Feb 12, 2006
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Fair enough. I just find that Lehle often do things better than many that do 'the same'.
devnulljp
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You should always have a JDI in your gigbag regardless ... just in case. Mine has saved the day a few times, bot for myself and for bandmates whose DIs mysteriously die at soundcheck.
