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Didnt get the gig...really bummed out...

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#101
MatticusMania said:
Sure, there will be some hitches, as are illustrated in the OP. Band does Song A in a different key then was learned. Band adds extended solo to Song B. Band doubles up the chorus on Song C. Thats to be expected, IMO, if youre playing 35-90 new songs with a band that youve never rehearsed with. It seems the band that the OP is referencing is also aware of that, seeing as how theyve given him a second paying gig only a week later.
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I see what your saying, but your still changing the rules.

I am not sure what part of 90 new songs (not those you already knew) played with no mistakes (no cheat sheets), at a live gig and no prior rehearsal everyone is not getting.

With all respect guys, it can't be done.
 
#102
bluewine said:
I see what your saying, but your still changing the rules.

I am not sure what part of 90 new songs (not those you already knew) played with no mistakes (no cheat sheets), at a live gig and no prior rehearsal everyone is not getting.

With all respect guys, it can't be done.
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With no respect blue, it can. You can't do it, but others can.

But....keep adding your little qualifiers. Eventually, you'll get it right.
 
#103
One Bad Monkey said:
I learned 40 songs in a weekend for a country cover band. I was given a handful of cassette tapes, and charts the guitarist made (all using the Nashville numbering system). Until then, I had never intentionally listened to country music at all or used the Nashville system, so it was completely new to me. With exception of two-three that I fudged through, everything else was fairly solid.

It can be done.
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Again I see what your saying.But again this is not apples with apples.

Your talking 40 songs with some charts and and fudging through some.

I am talking 90 songs little to no help from the band and no fudging.
 
#106
Let me understand this;

They didn't tell the fill in (guy helping them out) bass player the right time to be at the gig

They gave you a list of 90 songs to learn cold in 6 weeks

They gave you no respect for the time you put into their band

They didn't test you out before playing to customers

Then they dropped you with a lame excuse about vocals

and your upset about not joining this group of bozos?
 
#108
MrMeacham said:
Let me understand this;

They didn't tell the fill in (guy helping them out) bass player the right time to be at the gig

They gave you a list of 90 songs to learn cold in 6 weeks

They gave you no respect for the time you put into their band

They didn't test you out before playing to customers

Then they dropped you with a lame excuse about vocals

and your upset about not joining this group of bozos?
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You have it right.

They all understand this Meacham, most of the posts are are not directed at the OP.They are simply trying to give me a hard time.

Thanks for clarifying what the post was about.I think many of them forgot:D
 
#110
TBrett said:
Oh, drat. Just when I was going to say that my bf/bass player would have no problem lifting 90 tunes in 3 weeks - with reference notes, of course. The backing vocals might be another story, though. But you're right. Let's not poke the bear!
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Sorry, you already poked.

Try this one;

How are you or how can you prove to me your friend can learn 90 songs (under the OPs guidlnes), thats 90 new songs cold and perform them live without error.
 
#111
bluewine said:
Sorry, you already poked.

Try this one;

How are you or how can you prove to me your friend can learn 90 songs (under the OPs guidlnes), thats 90 new songs cold and perform them live without error.
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bluewhine:

I can prove it. Send me your email address and I'll have the guitard from my most recent band confirm my ability to learn about 100 songs in 6 weeks.
 
#112
guy n. cognito said:
bluewhine:

I can prove it. Send me your email address and I'll have the guitard from my most recent band confirm my ability to learn about 100 songs in 6 weeks.
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He might be able to learn them, so could I. But as I have said, none of us is going to perform (not learn, but perform) them live for the 1st time with no mistakes.

And I am not going to watch your guitar player perform anywhere to prove it.

Sorry, nice try:D
 
#113
bluewine said:
It is impossible to have 90 songs learned and gig/audition ready in 6 weeks.
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Sorry that's just not true. Most popular songs are ridiculously easy and the more songs you learn the easier it gets to learn songs. I've learned 50 songs in a week on a few separate occasions. For sub gigs. That I nailed.

I have no doubts that I could learn 90 songs that I've never heard before within 6 weeks and play them at a show. 90 jazz/fusion tunes with extreme technical demands in 6 weeks? No chance. 90 rock/country/dance tunes? Yeah.


Here's how:
-Get recordings of the songs.
-Listen to them constantly at work or in your car or something
-Figure out the chords or riffs and chart out the songs (just writing it down helps)
-Practice playing them through with the recordings

If it takes you longer than 5-10 minutes to learn a 3 minute song then yeah you may have trouble with this. That is not the case for all of us here.



To get back on topic, the whole situation does sound a little strange. It just seems like this band is bent on not ever rehearsing. It's weird that they don't know what time their own gigs are at. I bet this time you'll nail it- having a better idea of what they are looking for should help. Best of luck!
 
#114
paganjack said:
Sorry that's just not true. Most popular songs are ridiculously easy and the more songs you learn the easier it gets to learn songs. I've learned 50 songs in a week on a few separate occasions. For sub gigs. That I nailed.

I have no doubts that I could learn 90 songs that I've never heard before within 6 weeks and play them at a show. 90 jazz/fusion tunes with extreme technical demands in 6 weeks? No chance. 90 rock/country/dance tunes? Yeah.


Here's how:
-Get recordings of the songs.
-Listen to them constantly at work or in your car or something
-Figure out the chords or riffs and chart out the songs (just writing it down helps)
-Practice playing them through with the recordings

If it takes you longer than 5-10 minutes to learn a 3 minute song then yeah you may have trouble with this. That is not the case for all of us here.
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Sorry, but no;

You would make at least a couple of mistakes on refrains, verses or some other parts of the arangements of the 90 songs.

I can hear it now, oh, I didn't know about that stop after the refrain. Or oh, I didn't know that it's only the guitar and the keys that droped down to the E.I thought the bass did that too

Gee to bad you went down to that E, cause you played the other 89 songs with no mistakes. The other guy we auditioned nailed that song, so were going with him.

You know, guys. All of you might want to try and convince someone that hasn't been playing in bands for 40 years.
 
#116
bluewine said:
Again I see what your saying.But again this is not apples with apples.

Your talking 40 songs with some charts and and fudging through some.

I am talking 90 songs little to no help from the band and no fudging.
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You are correct. I'm also talking that I did it over a weekend. When I did the second gig with them a week later, those songs were off the charts and memorized and down.

Also remember, if someone gives you sheet music and you don't know how to read it, it's not really helping. That was my case; as mentioned, I've never used the Nashville system prior so the charts were little more than chicken scratch to me.

It can be done. I got hired during a set break on the second night, so while it still wasn't what I'd call perfect, the band thought otherwise.
 
#118
paganjack said:
Sorry that's just not true. Most popular songs are ridiculously easy and the more songs you learn the easier it gets to learn songs. I've learned 50 songs in a week on a few separate occasions. For sub gigs. That I nailed.

I have no doubts that I could learn 90 songs that I've never heard before within 6 weeks and play them at a show. 90 jazz/fusion tunes with extreme technical demands in 6 weeks? No chance. 90 rock/country/dance tunes? Yeah.
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Exactly. In my case, Shania was big on the radio. All of her songs are pretty much the same thing. Learning ST's tunes by that reason became very simple.
 
#119
I don't feel like arguing about it. So, to the OP, ya did good, man. If they hold any mistakes against you, the bad is on them. That was a tall order. Anyone can be forgiven for having a hard time at it. But you really made a good go at it. Admirable, I say! Rather than feeling bummed out in any way, you have every reason to feel proud. Tip o' the hat to ya.

Good luck on the next one.
 
#120
Russell L said:
I don't feel like arguing about it. So, to the OP, ya did good, man. If they hold any mistakes against you, the bad is on them. That was a tall order. Anyone can be forgiven for having a hard time at it. But you really made a good go at it. Admirable, I say! Rather than feeling bummed out in any way, you have every reason to feel proud. Tip o' the hat to ya.

Good luck on the next one.
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+1
 
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