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Dimension decisions...

The Squier dimension has an asymmetrical neck? For real?
The American Deluxe does. Plus it has a fairly unique 9.5"-14" Compound Radius.
"American Deluxe Dimension basses feature a distinctly comfortable neck profile (the shape of the neck in cross section) with an asymmetrical “C” shape. Specially designed for notably pleasing fretting-hand feel, it’s slightly fuller and more rounded on the side of the neck with the low-E and A strings, thinning slightly on the side with the D and G strings."
That's one hell of a lot of bass for $1280!
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The American Deluxe does. Plus is has a fairly unique 9.5"-14" Compound Radius.
American Deluxe Dimension basses feature a distinctly comfortable neck profile (the shape of the neck in cross section) with an asymmetrical “C” shape. Specially designed for notably pleasing fretting-hand feel, it’s slightly fuller and more rounded on the side of the neck with the low-E and A strings, thinning slightly on the side with the D and G strings.
That's one hell of a lot of bass for $1280!
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I stand corrected, thought they all had it (the American Standard appears to have it too) but then without the asymmetrical neck on either the Squier or Ray 34, I think the Ray 34 (or Ray 4) is worth a look.
 
Hey Evil - I can't comment on the Dimension bass since I haven't had the chance to try one yet. But as for your apparently "foolish" habit of trying out a bass without plugging it in - looks like you're in good company!:thumbsup:
Fast forward to the 1:30 mark on the clip below...


And for the record I rarely plug a bass in first when I'm trying it for the first time. I want to hear how the notes ring out unamplified and feel how responsive the strings are and how comfortable and lively the neck is. If I like all that, then I'll plug it in but not before.

Good luck managing the GAS attack!
 
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I have a Squier Dimension and I think it is an incredible deal. It is a budget bass that does not feel like a budget bass. The B string is tight and well defined. It sets up well, the electronics are dead silent. The neck has very nearly 19mm spacing at the bridge.

No, it does not sound like a Stingray, it is probably more like an Ibanez ATK. I love mine, it feels more like a $600-$700 bass than a $300 bass.
 
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Hey Evil - I can't comment on the Dimension bass since I haven't had the chance to try one yet. But as for your apparently "foolish" habit of trying out a bass without plugging it in - looks like you're in good company!:thumbsup:
Fast forward to the 1:30 mark on the clip below...


And for the record I rarely plug a bass in first when I'm trying it for the first time. I want to hear how the notes ring out unamplified and feel how responsive the strings are and how comfortable and lively the neck is. If I like all that, then I'll plug it in but not before.

Good luck managing the GAS attack!


Yolanda Charles is the absolutely worst person possible to sell me anything. Whenever I see her videos, for the first twenty seconds enjoy her great playing, then I spend the rest of it looking at her and thinking thoughts I cannot share on this forum!;)
 
Yolanda Charles is the absolutely worst person possible to sell me anything. Whenever I see her videos, for the first twenty seconds enjoy her great playing, then I spend the rest of it looking at her and thinking thoughts I cannot share on this forum!;)
LOL - I guess it kinda depends on what she's selling.:woot:
Actually its the first time I've seen her, but was impressed by her chops and the logic she uses to find a nice bass. Between her and Evil they've peaked my interest in trying one of these basses.
 
I bought a Squier Dimension V about a week ago. The bridge, contoured heel and dual string trees are rare features for a Squier and do positively contribute. I also like the feel of the neck, but we all know that is based on preference.

The one thing I would recommend is playing it through an amp. I do not find the tone controls to be to my liking, but the pickup is high output and I will be installing a better preamp in it shortly.
 
Why specifically? Is it more just the neck or the sound?
The Made In Mexico Fenders have better quality woods; hardware, and electronics than Squiers.
In this case there is also a vast clear cut difference between the passive Fender vs the active Squier. Only $80 of separation. I much prefer passive. If active is your thing then the Squier is your baby.

After taking a closer look, the Squier has the five screw contoured heel for the bolt on neck. The MIM has the traditional 4 screw neck plate. Also the Squier has the Hi-Mass Fender bridge while the MIM has the traditional Fender L-plate bridge. The pick-ups appear to be identical. The Squier's body is basswood which is much lighter and also softer than the Fender's alder body. I much prefer alder as a tone-wood over basswood. All-in-all some very clear cut differences.
 
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The Made In Mexico Fenders have better quality woods; hardware, and electronics than Squiers.
In this case there is also a vast clear cut difference between the passive Fender vs the active Squier. Only $80 of separation. I much prefer passive. If active is your thing then the Squier is your baby.

After taking a closer look, the Squier has the five screw contoured heel for the bolt on neck. The MIM has the traditional 4 screw neck plate. Also the Squier has the Hi-Mass Fender bridge while the MIM has the traditional Fender L-plate bridge. The pick-ups appear to be identical. The Squier's body is basswood which is much lighter and also softer than the Fender's alder body. I much prefer alder as a tone-wood over basswood. All-in-all some very clear cut differences.

Interesting. I'm new to Squires (Own my share of American Standards however.) And I was never overly impressed by the MIMs. I'd occasionally find a really good one. But most of the ones I tried over the years were just 'ok' and nothing special.

The CV Squires I've recently tried (and bought) were the exact opposite. They played great, sounded great, and more than held there own against their more expensive American counterparts. But maybe I was just lucky.

There is a question of how well they'll hold up over time. It would be fun to flash forward 50 years to see if the Squires held up as well as some of the real vintage Fenders from the 50's and 60's have.

As far as the 'tonewood' used bit goes...I'll pass on commenting since people believe what they want believe on that subject. And all discussions about the importance of the type of wood used (as opposed to the quality of the wood used) invariably get ugly. So I'll stand mute and move along.

Hardware? Sure. We're not looking at Hipshot tuners or Babicz bridges here. But what's on there seems to work smoothly, hold the tuning, and get the job done. And the new hi-mass bridge is actually not bad. Far better than the original bridge Fender used back in the day on all those basses that are still spoken of in hushed tones wherever Fender bass lovers gather. So hardware didn't seem to me to be much an issue. It's true there's a lot of people who feel the need to immediately replace the hardware on their Squires. But a lot of people put salt on their food without tasting it first too, so that's no surprise. I haven't found it necessary to replace any hardware myself. But YMMV.

re: that 5-bolt neck. Hmm...that's a tougher one since there's as many theories about the best way to attach a bolt-on neck as there are bass builders. Some say 4, some say 6...or 8. At least Squire gets props for being a little different here. Be interesting to see if it makes any difference in overall neck stability over the long term. As it stands, it doesn't seem to have any adverse effect on either the tone or sustain.

Passive vs active? Yeah. I'll agree with you. I much prefer passive over active basses too.

So yes, there are clearly observable differences between the construction of Squire vs the MIM models. But I wonder how many significant real differences there are in playability, tone, and stability.

To me the really big selling point with the Dimension Bass was it's easily adjustable truss rod (pull the neck to do it on an old Fender just once and you'll know why you'd want that) and the asymmetrical neck. Unfortunately, that slick asymmetrical neck is (currently) only available on the full-blooded American model. (Not that it costs any more to shape an asymmetrical neck than it does a standard one with today's CNC automated milling machinery. Hear me Fender? Just sayin' <wink>) But if you insisted on that feature, you wouldn't be looking at the Squire version to begin with would you?
 
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re: that 5-bolt neck. Hmm...that's a tougher one since there's as many theories about the best way to attach a bolt-onneck as there are bass builders. Some say 4, dome 6
I think that's excellent and taken directly from the original American Deluxe design. +1 Squier
And the new hi-mass bridge is actually not bad.
"not bad" is an understatement as the Fender Hi-Mass bridge is superb and is actually more BadAss than a BadAss. +1 Squier
It would be fun to flash forward 50 years
Oh no it wouldn't! I'd be 111 :dead:
 
I have a Squier Dimension and I think it is an incredible deal. It is a budget bass that does not feel like a budget bass. The B string is tight and well defined. It sets up well, the electronics are dead silent. The neck has very nearly 19mm spacing at the bridge.

No, it does not sound like a Stingray, it is probably more like an Ibanez ATK. I love mine, it feels more like a $600-$700 bass than a $300 bass.

The recorded tones on video sound quite pokey. So absent finding somewhere that actually has one on sale, how close can you get with it to traditional Fender tones such as J or P?
 
They don't like a P or J at all. The single pickup version is more like a Stingray.

I was hoping there would be a bit more versatility in there in terms of breadth of tones other than the obvious Stingray comparison. I'll definitely need to hear one in person. I was looking at the passive Retrovibe Super P, but the Squier Dimension 4 is in the same price bracket, or for that matter the ESP LTD vintage range or the Sire...

If the Dimension can be persuaded to do something fairly fat and thick and warm as well as in-yer-face then I'm happy.
 
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