• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join free Log in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Dingwall -- (ignorant) What's The Big Deal?

#61
MochaFiend said:
Okay, but considering that a really expensive Sterling by MM is under a thousand, I'm still not sure how you're justifying it based on the criteria. An "expensive" Sterling by MM is $1599. A Dingwall MIC is more that double that. I may be misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're attributing the cost to where someone does a setup? Come on now. Send it to me completely shaged up and I'll get a local tech to sort it in under an hour. Dingwall is charging roughly the same price for MIC as Ernie Ball MM Ball Family Reserve! I'm glad you can make it make sense in your mind, but from the outside, it's just... what?
Click to expand...
The quality of using North America sourced better Wood and hardware pickups etc also their setup includes fret dressing/leveling and inspection of all electronics if you want to make a SBMM similar to Dingwall sensible in your mind from outside it is just ...what? 🙂
 
  • Like
Reactions: tindrum
#62
Nebadon2000 said:
The quality of using North America sourced better Wood and hardware pickups etc also their setup includes fret dressing/leveling and inspection of all electronics if you want to make a SBMM similar to Dingwall sensible in your mind from outside it is just ...what? 🙂
Click to expand...
I wasn't. You compared Dingwall to EBMM in your post, not me. What I said was that everything you just mentioned is Ball Family Reserve. Not Sterling. So the highest tier EBMM sells for roughly the same as the lowest tier Dingwall MIC.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nebadon2000
#64
MochaFiend said:
I wasn't. You compared Dingwall to EBMM in your post, not me. What I said was that everything you just mentioned is Ball Family Reserve. Not Sterling. So the highest tier EBMM sells for roughly the same as the lowest tier Dingwall MIC.
Click to expand...
Correct on my EBMM comparison which I stand by IME

I may give EBMM BFR a slight edge in quality but it is a comparable not Ibenez, Sire, Cort or SBMM

I commented on your assertion that
SBMM was as good but 1/2 price
and only difference was setup (which is not what I said) I also stand by my comments on that

Also maybe I am misunderstanding your point if so 'Never Mind'🙂
 
#65
I've owned 2 both at a deep discount.

It is the best FF experience, and the best quality at the mass production level.

That said, they simply aren't worth $3800 They don't have USA tuners, they are made in China, and they use typical, inexpensive, easy tor work with wood- cost savings SHOULD be passed to consumer, but they price them like NA builds where production prices are much higher.

Honestly NA made instruments are overpriced as well, as are German ones.
 
#66
JoeyFab said:
Not to sidetrack the thread, but hasn't Ibanez been selling a multi-scale bass guitar now for many years? I think I tried it once in a music store long ago, but I really wasn't quite the expert (😮) back then that I am now. ;)
Click to expand...
Yes, several models including a headless multiscale. I have an SRMS805 which has a 35.5" B string and a standard headstock. It was my stepping stone to a Dingwall; once I found that multiscale wasn't an issue for my playing, I acquired a used passive ABI that is a fantastic bass.

A few months after getting the Dingwall, I put the Ibanez up for sale. Then while it was sitting there untouched, the preamp died. Now I have a passive-only Ibanez that I will lose a lot of money on, if I can even sell it. It's a good bass, but it pales in comparison to the Dingwall.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tindrum
#68
So not quite NBD, but Dingwall has a new line of John Taylor coming out later this year. Normally they are $3700 US, but on sale for $2100 to clear out inventory of the four-string version. Same bass that someone last week paid $3700 for, same Neve preamp, yada yada. I'm going to put it to the test. This is about where I would expect the bass to be priced, putting it slightly higher than similarly spec'd production model basses.

Thanks everyone for your input. I haven't been replying to every message but I read them all and am grateful for the time you took to reply to my inquiry.

Cheers!
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bassplayer1586, cfraz, Element Zero and 1 other person
#69
MochaFiend said:
So not quite NBD, but Dingwall has a new line of John Taylor coming out later this year. Normally they are $3700 US, but on sale for $2100 to clear out inventory of the four-string version. Same bass that someone last week paid $3700 for, same Neve preamp, yada yada. I'm going to put it to the test. This is about where I would expect the bass to be priced, putting it slightly higher than similarly spec'd production model basses.

Thanks everyone for your input. I haven't been replying to every message but I read them all and am grateful for the time you took to reply to my inquiry.

Cheers!
Click to expand...
I have one in 5, black, absolutely amazing instrument at that price.

The NEVE is legit, passive controlis very intuitive.

$2500 for a slightly fancy combustion is where they should be priced.
 
#70
MochaFiend said:
So not quite NBD, but Dingwall has a new line of John Taylor coming out later this year. Normally they are $3700 US, but on sale for $2100 to clear out inventory of the four-string version.
Click to expand...
Congrats on the new bass. That's a cool model. It has FD3N pickups which aren't the same as any of the Canadian models but are reportedly very close to the Canadian FD3 pickups. I've even read reports of some folks preferring the FD3N to the FD3. Being a 4-string, you'll find some people saying things like "you only get the benefit if you have the 37" B string" but I've always found that argument to be silly. My favorite Dingwalls are medium scale SJ models and they're fantastic. Hopefully you enjoy it. If not you should be able to sell it quickly and fund something more to your liking.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Element Zero
#71
silky smoove said:
Congrats on the new bass. That's a cool model. It has FD3N pickups which aren't the same as any of the Canadian models but are reportedly very close to the Canadian FD3 pickups. I've even read reports of some folks preferring the FD3N to the FD3. Being a 4-string, you'll find some people saying things like "you only get the benefit if you have the 37" B string" but I've always found that argument to be silly. My favorite Dingwalls are medium scale SJ models and they're fantastic. Hopefully you enjoy it. If not you should be able to sell it quickly and fund something more to your liking.
Click to expand...
As soon as they are gone you should definitely recoup all your funds if you were to sell.
 
#72
MochaFiend said:
Okay, but considering that a really expensive Sterling by MM is under a thousand, I'm still not sure how you're justifying it based on the criteria. An "expensive" Sterling by MM is $1599. A Dingwall MIC is more that double that. I may be misunderstanding, but it sounds like you're attributing the cost to where someone does a setup? Come on now. Send it to me completely shaged up and I'll get a local tech to sort it in under an hour. Dingwall is charging roughly the same price for MIC as Ernie Ball MM Ball Family Reserve! I'm glad you can make it make sense in your mind, but from the outside, it's just... what?
Click to expand...
From what I understand they do more than just a setup. If I recall correctly they take the put together instrument apart and go through it with a fine tooth comb and put it back together and then do a setup… that being said, I certainly had to adjust mine once I got it home… but the again I had to do the same with the Fodera I bought from Bass Club Chicago, and the EBMM BFR I bought from Sweetwater, and the Pedulla Pentabuzz I bought from Mike himself.
 
#73
logdrum said:
You just have to try them out and have an open mind
Click to expand...
This is what I did the first time I played a Dingwall. There was a Nolly signature model 6 string at my local GC a while ago. So I tried it out...

It didn't "wow" me the first time. I felt overwhelmed from the amount of tonal options, the 6 strings (as mainly a 4 string guy), and the fanned frets. It was a huge adjustment from playing my usual Rickenbacker basses. That adjustment was almost a distraction for me while playing it. But the quality control, ergonomics, and low B sound were all amazing! I understand the hype behind Dingwalls, especially as a heavy metal bassist.

I need more time with one before I can give a fully developed opinion.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 31HZ
#74
Sid the Kid said:
Thing is my Chinese Dingwalls are better constructed than my American Fenders, and the price was within a few hundred bucks. Plus I'm not stuck with a crummy Fender B string and pickups. No desire or need to mod. Provenance be damned, just have to judge the instruments for what they are not where they originated.
Click to expand...
No question about that, especially if you compare a Chinese made Dingwall to an MIA Fender from within the last decade. The latter is a pretty low bar to clear in terms of QC.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Sid the Kid
#78
It's a wonderful instrument, I'll be shocked if you don't love it. The tone of these basses are sensitive to pickup height, meaning a little change can make a big difference. There's no wrong way to go about it but some pickup height experimentation to find your sound will be rewarding! You're going to love the preamp. Congrats!

tindrum said:
On the 4th last weekend I bumped across the John Taylor models on sale via Reverb. I was stuck on getting a black one at $2100 and only found one online and pounced on it. It should be here tomorrow afternoon and I am PUMPED! I'm a bassist because of JT so it just makes sense.
Click to expand...
 
  • Like
Reactions: LadyLoveStingRay5 and tindrum
#79
Element Zero said:
There weren't any in stock at the time. Plus, I 100% cannot stand the look of the JT lol. The stripes are just hideous and the choice between the interesting (but very much NOT me) green or black I just don't find attractive. The purple Nashville with the Neve has my attention if only it didn't have the ridiculously large pickguard.

Gotta be able to find your instrument attractive to a point. That's why I had the custom pickguard made for my NG.
Click to expand...
Are you saying my seafoam green JT is ugly??!!😢. I'm just joking. The metallic black JT is not an attractive bass to me. Stealth black could work. I like the pick guards on the NG3 models. Celestial blue is an awesome color. If they ever drop the prices on those like they did on the JT, look out. Honestly the JT has cured my GAS. I am beyond satisfied. I could be completely happy owning just my JT and Ernie Ball Darkray 5. I say my GAS is definitely cured because those new Bongo models haven't done anything for me, even the 4 string John Myung Bongo. I do have to say the gold bar Bongo is beyond hideous though
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bassplayer1586, tindrum and Element Zero

Latest posts

Top Bottom
Back