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#23,181
Discount Saint said:
I'm a little stumped on the string issue right now, to be honest. I love the feel of flats, and the reduction of string noise, but I also like to be able to dial an aggressive tone with presence in a heavy rock band. The Ernie Ball Cobalt flats seem to really be my favourite strings for these purposes, and if there was anything sort of similar to those that Payson makes I would jump on that.

I guess I would also opt for something with less floppiness so as to avoid any banging on the pickups.

Which of your sets would you recommend? Are any of your flats a little on the brighter side like the cobalts, or would the reduced cores be better?
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Try the Dingwall Stainless!! You would be surprised how once they calm down a bit, they are aggressive but but a bit scooped and dark sounding in the best way. Give them two or three solid plays before really evaluating. Also, hear them in a mix. I have tried many versions of strings over at least three brands on my ABIs: Dingwall, Payson and Circle K's. The Payson's are great as well, but I slightly favor the Dingwalls. I used to be a nickel and then nickel alloy man, and now it is the stainless. I forget who used to make the Dingwall steels vs now, but I really dig the now!!
 
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#23,184
Nightman said:
:meh::meh:Sounds like the thing to do!! Seems there’s no music store in the ATL where I can test drive a Dingwall!! :meh:
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As many here have said, this was the case for most of us. I jumped into my NG-2 sight-unseen, and it went well for me. That said, I've never had the chance to "audition" any of my gear before.

My recommendation - pick up a Dingwall here in the classifieds. Spend a month with it. If you don't like it you could list it yourself for literally the same price. At worst you'll just be down the cost of shipping. At most, you'll have a new favorite bass!
 
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#23,185
reddavid said:
I also prefer the Dingwall SS for longscale. Really good tone. I thought they were made by D’Addario.
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There is kind of some magic that goes on when they get in the mix it seems. I like them solo, I love them in the mix. The Paysons are excellent as well. I prefer the slightly lower tension of the Dingwall’s. Payson has a reduced core that has slightly lower tension, but those may be nickel alloy.
 
#23,187
BuffaloBob4343 said:
There is kind of some magic that goes on when they get in the mix it seems. I like them solo, I love them in the mix. The Paysons are excellent as well. I prefer the slightly lower tension of the Dingwall’s. Payson has a reduced core that has slightly lower tension, but those may be nickel alloy.
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It's interesting hearing this about the Dingwall SS strings. I had some DR Hi-Beams on my Fender Dimension for awhile, but I found them lacking in oomph. Mind you, Dimensions are very mid-scooped, and the NG-2 seems to be very mid-forward, so maybe SS would be different on an NG-2.
 
#23,190
Discount Saint said:
I'm a little stumped on the string issue right now, to be honest. I love the feel of flats, and the reduction of string noise, but I also like to be able to dial an aggressive tone with presence in a heavy rock band. The Ernie Ball Cobalt flats seem to really be my favourite strings for these purposes, and if there was anything sort of similar to those that Payson makes I would jump on that.

I guess I would also opt for something with less floppiness so as to avoid any banging on the pickups.

Which of your sets would you recommend? Are any of your flats a little on the brighter side like the cobalts, or would the reduced cores be better?
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The Payson Fanned True Flats are all about that thumpy Mo-Town sound, without the extra firm tension. They have excellent sustain too. Don’t hesitate to use a DarkGlass pedal or pre with the Payson Flats. Jamerson’s solo’d tracks sound like he’s using distortion, but it sits so nicely in the mix.

The Payson FNS-Reduced Core sets have more tension if you like roundwounds with super low action. They are surprisingly bright imho. NS is easier on nickel frets.
 
#23,191
EMoneySC2 said:
As many here have said, this was the case for most of us. I jumped into my NG-2 sight-unseen, and it went well for me. That said, I've never had the chance to "audition" any of my gear before.

My recommendation - pick up a Dingwall here in the classifieds. Spend a month with it. If you don't like it you could list it yourself for literally the same price. At worst you'll just be down the cost of shipping. At most, you'll have a new favorite bass!
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I’m looking now.
 
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#23,193
Blues Cat said:
The Payson Fanned True Flats are all about that thumpy Mo-Town sound, without the extra firm tension. They have excellent sustain too. Don’t hesitate to use a DarkGlass pedal or pre with the Payson Flats. Jamerson’s solo’d tracks sound like he’s using distortion, but it sits so nicely in the mix.

The Payson FNS-Reduced Core sets have more tension if you like roundwounds with super low action. They are surprisingly bright imho. NS is easier on nickel frets.
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What do you recommend for heavier rock music - competing with somewhat mid-heavy guitars and and a loud drummer? I do use a lot of distortion, synth, and fuzz kind of effects.
 
#23,196
Discount Saint said:
What do you recommend for heavier rock music - competing with somewhat mid-heavy guitars and and a loud drummer? I do use a lot of distortion, synth, and fuzz kind of effects.
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Payson Fanned Stainless Steels. That’ll knock the guitarists heads off.

Is anyone else drop tuning to F#0/A0 and requiring a SS Version? We have a limited quantity of prototypes and are seeking players who are already using this tuning and touring/gigging. Please PM me if interested.

Guages are .170T and .145T.
 
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Hi all quick question about pickups...and switches. I have a 4 string ABZ active with 2x series/parallel switches. If my pickup selector has settings for bridge/neck parallel and bridge/neck series...how does that work with the switches? Are they redundant? Thanks!
 
#23,199
BigDrew said:
Hi all quick question about pickups...and switches. I have a 4 string ABZ active with 2x series/parallel switches. If my pickup selector has settings for bridge/neck parallel and bridge/neck series...how does that work with the switches? Are they redundant? Thanks!
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No, they're not redundant.

The pickup selector runs the pickups in series or parallel with each other.
The switches run each coil within the individual pickup in series or parallel.

So you could run the pickups in parallel with their coils in series.

Does that make sense?
 
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#23,200
Discount Saint said:
Okay, so here's a candid question for anybody who has experience with both the Dingwall Stainless Steel strings and the Paysons - which do you like better and why?
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In my honest opinion

payson = tone and tension
Dingwall = longevity. Tone and tension are still superb but for me payson has the slight ups on those catagories.

BigDrew said:
Hi all quick question about pickups...and switches. I have a 4 string ABZ active with 2x series/parallel switches. If my pickup selector has settings for bridge/neck parallel and bridge/neck series...how does that work with the switches? Are they redundant? Thanks!
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Dave W said:
No, they're not redundant.

The pickup selector runs the pickups in series or parallel with each other.
The switches run each coil within the individual pickup in series or parallel.

So you could run the pickups in parallel with their coils in series.

Does that make sense?
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Ed Zachary (exactly)
 
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