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Dingwall Owners Club
- Thread starter FroggyOne2
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I will also add this which is more opinion then factual basis also.
I also find it important to support fellows like payson. If it costs me a few extra dollars a year in more sets of strings or higher costs so be it.
Payson has offered up a variety of alternate options that no one else does ie. Reduced core, flats, etc. I would HATE to hear that he folds shop much like BSO as it’s just not a profitable situation.
I have no idea of his business goings on but I do know I want/ us multiscale users NEED businesses like his to succeed if we want more variety. I have no concern of Dingwall having any issues keeping things moving along at this point but the smaller guys who expand on this fanned fret world we live in need our support. Who knows what next innovation they will offer up to us if given the opportunity.
Payson also offers a bridge option that is unique to fanned fret basses. Just a side point that I know a few of the fellows in here have put to task on their combustion models.
Lol. In closing. Not only do I love payson strings I look forward to the opportunity to explore his next options ether they be blacks or glow in the dark of another variety of flats. (I don’t know if it’s a thing but I’d be real curious to try SS flats on my incoming Dingwall)
Anywho. Opinion expressed!
That’s for reading.
I think a player who prefers more emphasis on the fundamental and higher tension will like the Paysons better. If one prefers more harmonic content and and lower tension, they will like the Dingwall’s. YMMV.
And I agree on supporting Payson. I would never base my preference alone on that, but I would not hesitate to to do so for any other reason.
I will also add this which is more opinion then factual basis also.
I also find it important to support fellows like payson. If it costs me a few extra dollars a year in more sets of strings or higher costs so be it.
Payson has offered up a variety of alternate options that no one else does ie. Reduced core, flats, etc. I would HATE to hear that he folds shop much like BSO as it’s just not a profitable situation.
I have no idea of his business goings on but I do know I want/ us multiscale users NEED businesses like his to succeed if we want more variety. I have no concern of Dingwall having any issues keeping things moving along at this point but the smaller guys who expand on this fanned fret world we live in need our support. Who knows what next innovation they will offer up to us if given the opportunity.
Payson also offers a bridge option that is unique to fanned fret basses. Just a side point that I know a few of the fellows in here have put to task on their combustion models.
Lol. In closing. Not only do I love payson strings I look forward to the opportunity to explore his next options ether they be blacks or glow in the dark of another variety of flats. (I don’t know if it’s a thing but I’d be real curious to try SS flats on my incoming Dingwall)
Anywho. Opinion expressed!
That’s for reading.
Let me just say that I very much appreciate this sentiment, and I very much with your reasons for feeling this way.
My one major hesitation about getting into the fanned fret Dingwall basses was the lack of string options, and when there is a quality product like it sounds as though Payson provides, the community should most definitely put a priority on supporting them.
Based on what you’ve said about the strings as well, I think I’ll be ordering a set of the Payson SS to try out.
Agreed on both points. I started using Payson when I was tuned in A standard and that is where I really noticed the difference and the “cut” the most playing with a really really loud guitar player in thrash death grind type stuff.
Im back up to standard tuning and just restrung my 3 long scales yesterday with SS. I’m very excited to find some good play time. First I need a new project to do so I think. At least a new percussionist.
I wouldn’t be able to support just to offer support but since I greatly appreciate at least one of his offerings I definitely find it worth while.
Perhaps some medium scale strings will be in the future offerings.
MAtter of fact.
These three just got restrung with payson SS this week
These three just got restrung with payson SS this week
You a Payson endorser
Not yet!!! Lol. I’m sure I’d have to have some minimum requirements..... like an active band.... or maybe some talent.
If you are looking for a percussionist we just fired ours
Sorry to hear that. Mine is hopefully going to check himself into the psych ward soon.
I always go with nickel or alloys rather than stainless. I really enjoyed the Payson medium light and reduced core strings.
There are a few other options. Infeld superlong superalloys. You can come up with a set of TI flats, but you’ll be ordering singles to really dial it in. (B string a a whopping .136, non tapered)
We’re all going to miss BSO and Jason’s expertise. He knew what worked for Dingwall longscales.
Payson really has brought a great product along over the past ten years. The Paysons are tapered the same as Dingwall sets, so you won’t need to do much fiddling to set up.
The Dingwall nickels worked fine for me as well, but I’m usually looking for less tension, and a lighter feel.
Circle K will get you your strings, but it’s going to take a while, and there won’t be a lot of communication. They have a balanced set for Dingwalls.
If you go with the Super series, you can use just about anything, just make sure the B string wrap length is right. Not much room between the nut and the B tuner.
There are a few other options. Infeld superlong superalloys. You can come up with a set of TI flats, but you’ll be ordering singles to really dial it in. (B string a a whopping .136, non tapered)
We’re all going to miss BSO and Jason’s expertise. He knew what worked for Dingwall longscales.
Payson really has brought a great product along over the past ten years. The Paysons are tapered the same as Dingwall sets, so you won’t need to do much fiddling to set up.
The Dingwall nickels worked fine for me as well, but I’m usually looking for less tension, and a lighter feel.
Circle K will get you your strings, but it’s going to take a while, and there won’t be a lot of communication. They have a balanced set for Dingwalls.
If you go with the Super series, you can use just about anything, just make sure the B string wrap length is right. Not much room between the nut and the B tuner.
I wish I could’ve gotten a picture of the airport X-ray of my ABZ6 and SP5 in the big travel bag, it was absolutely fascinating to see. On my way back to the US now, gonna be in Syracuse a couple weeks, then on to Nashville and L.A. for my dissertation research. If any of you Dingwall slingers have a couch I can crash on in either city, I’d be most appreciative!
A couple of the main differences these days that come to my mind is
- the finish. AB1 and 2 have the shiney gloss finish( nitro I think. Correction probably required here). The ABZ has the more natural satin with exposed grain finish.(poly maybe....ugh probably soo wrong on proper name). I believe this finish does play a factor in the sound.
-Cost wise it used to be ABZ being the lowest. AB2 being the highest but now that you can really trick most of them out I think that varies more bass to bass
- body wood. On an AB2 you can have a few different body wood options. On the ABZ it’s always ash if I recall correctly.
- body chambering. The AB2 has the body chambering with the F holes. ABZ does not.
- AB exotic top. ABZ no exotic top.
- the ABZ used to be all passive with combustion style pick ups but that’s kind of out the window now with optional preamps and such and all being rounded pick ups.
I think that covers most of it between the 2. Hopefully hat helps
