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Are wenge neck orders still possible?

there hasn’t been any public discontinuation. Short answer, thinking yes


So here is a question… material (nickel), length, and gauge all the same… what other design elements effect string tone?

how does winding effect it? and material and gauge the same… what design elements cause tension differences?

Something else, not necessarily construction related but more set up related, Pick up height. If doing any form of A/Bing bare in mind that you may need a slight adjustment to get exactly what you want out of any set. Even a little higher action can offer a different reverberation intro he pick up. The lower the set up the more aggressive the tone IME. What seems minor can play a noticeable roll in one’s impression of strings.
Another mention would be the taper/or not on the B/E/A.

I received a SJ At one point and I’m not sure what exact strings came on it. No taper. They sounded really good, round and clean but I didn’t like the playability as the seemed a bit too stiff and I couldn’t get the action any lower as I had hoped.
 
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I believe Johnfoxbass is a big proponent of Kurt mangin strings and has also had discussion about MS strings.

I was mainly using Thomastiks before. My first Muck came with Mangans on it and I liked the sound enough to justify not spending Thomastik money anymore. Haha

I'm sure a part of that is the incredible instrument that they're on, but I haven't had any complaints with CM.

I've had 1 dead string. I emailed them and they immediately sent a replacement.
 
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Left. I love a great slab of wood but on a more traditional bass like a J or PJ I go with the more traditional look.
I’ve grown fond of some of the traditional vibes as well. A buddy locally has a vintage looking white JP with tort and PF if I recall and it’s not anything I’d really have gone for back in the day but I have definitely fallen for that bass more recently.
Well, first, I reported your post for pornographic content.

Second -- right, easily. Not just for the wood combo (super drool), but, I like super Js more than super Ps.
Lol. What do you like more. The body shaping, the pick up configs, ability to add preamp or something else?
Right of course. Fanned works better on offset bodies imho, plus that top, black hw (although silver works great on that very dark body, better than black would), j over p ..

Is the p a wenge neck with a painted head ?

Both are wenge necks. I’ve flip flopped over which one I enjoy playing more. Last night I couldn’t put the J down(strung with Payson). It was perfect for the heavier stuff I was practicing.

Right of course. Looks prettier with the wood choices and doesn't have a pickguard.

gotcha. Purely a cosmetic selection. I get that.
Left all day. I know the J is more versatile, the J is subjectively prettier, the J has better EQ...
but my heart says the answer to happiness is P Vol Tone
Haha. Simplicity can be a very great thing. And don’t underestimate the versatility of these Ps with the Tone fusion pot. It can do many things.

Left. I’m really considering putting my SJ up for sale to fund a 5 String Super. Currently I don’t own any 5s and if I’m getting a B string, it’s gotta be Dingwall.
!!! Do it!
Right because it looks like many poor souls are trapped in that bass.

Might throw in a P-tone though...
I’ve considered this. The FD3 in the neck does a damn good job getting close though.
Left because then i would get a white pickguard. I think it would look killer. Plus, i prefer my fso’s without fancy wood. The fancy woods look best on the z series imho.

FSO?

I think we have very different tastes. I love that. Diversity keeps things interesting.

I would not love a white PG at all although it would go well with the blocks! I’ve actually thought about black hardware for this guy. The white blocks are perhaps my least fav part of the bass.
 
The Dingwall nickels are still fresh on my new AB (arrived on the eve of new year's eve), but I already have a set of regular gauge Payson nickel rounds waiting in the wings. I'm so glad I went with the Glock pre - I love hearing the 'natural' voice of this bass. Makes me wonder what the old NG-2 (same wood combinations) would have sounded like with a Glock. :cool:

i keep reading that the darkglass tone cap colours the tone. My ng and ab1 sound the same with and without passive as long as the preamp eq is neutral. I just prefer the dg preamp to any i have used before cause the frequency centres are more relevant to what i want to cut/boost.

am i missing something? They are both pretty aggressive sounding basses even in passive.
 
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I’ve grown fond of some of the traditional vibes as well. A buddy locally has a vintage looking white JP with tort and PF if I recall and it’s not anything I’d really have gone for back in the day but I have definitely fallen for that bass more recently.

Lol. What do you like more. The body shaping, the pick up configs, ability to add preamp or something else?


Both are wenge necks. I’ve flip flopped over which one I enjoy playing more. Last night I couldn’t put the J down(strung with Payson). It was perfect for the heavier stuff I was practicing.



gotcha. Purely a cosmetic selection. I get that.

Haha. Simplicity can be a very great thing. And don’t underestimate the versatility of these Ps with the Tone fusion pot. It can do many things.


!!! Do it!

I’ve considered this. The FD3 in the neck does a damn good job getting close though.


FSO?

I think we have very different tastes. I love that. Diversity keeps things interesting.

I would not love a white PG at all although it would go well with the blocks! I’ve actually thought about black hardware for this guy. The white blocks are perhaps my least fav part of the bass.
Fso = fender shaped object.
 
there hasn’t been any public discontinuation. Short answer, thinking yes




Something else, not necessarily construction related but more set up related, Pick up height. If doing any form of A/Bing bare in mind that you may need a slight adjustment to get exactly what you want out of any set. Even a little higher action can offer a different reverberation intro he pick up. The lower the set up the more aggressive the tone IME. What seems minor can play a noticeable roll in one’s impression of strings.
Another mention would be the taper/or not on the B/E/A.

I received a SJ At one point and I’m not sure what exact strings came on it. No taper. They sounded really good, round and clean but I didn’t like the playability as the seemed a bit too stiff and I couldn’t get the action any lower as I had hoped.

on my ric’s i set the pickups as high as i can to a) balance them and b) not cause farting when i dig in and play hard. My dingwalls both arrived with a nice setup so i have yet to tweak things.

however… i currently seem to be running all my bases a bit to low for relief. Like not even a credit card space on the 9th fret when i fret 1 and 24. I should check string height.
 
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I’ve grown fond of some of the traditional vibes as well. A buddy locally has a vintage looking white JP with tort and PF if I recall and it’s not anything I’d really have gone for back in the day but I have definitely fallen for that bass more recently.

Lol. What do you like more. The body shaping, the pick up configs, ability to add preamp or something else?
Body shape, (no) pickguard, plus being able to be active (my preference, even if a glock set flat is tonally identical to passive, it's still nice for that low-Z).

I think this is "Fender Shaped Object" which is IMO a pretty lame acronym and phrase as a whole :)

I think we have very different tastes. I love that. Diversity keeps things interesting.
Yes! And Dingwall can execute on everything in the spectrum so exceedingly well, too. Like, your Super P is still Super appealing (haha, I made a funny). I'd be happy to have it too :D
 
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Body shape, (no) pickguard, plus being able to be active (my preference, even if a glock set flat is tonally identical to passive, it's still nice for that low-Z).


I think this is "Fender Shaped Object" which is IMO a pretty lame acronym and phrase as a whole :)


Yes! And Dingwall can execute on everything in the spectrum so exceedingly well, too. Like, your Super P is still Super appealing (haha, I made a funny). I'd be happy to have it too :D
Those are all the things that I like about the J aswell but crazy enough I’ve struggled with really bonding with the J for speed and tone. Last night, I couldn’t put it down playing to our set via headphones. I think the Paysons are a factor in it being now more suitable to my tastes in that situation.

For noodling and “radio friendly” covers I bonded with the P instantly. It took me off guard. That said, l think the dingwall strings being slinkier on the P and what not, it doesn’t really play as quickly but GAWD is it slinky and smooth with killer toanz!
 
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Maybe it is just the new bass (to me) honeymoon phase… but i cant help but thinking that Dingwall nailed the apex of bass design 10 or so years ago… and everyone else has been playing catchup.

i think the p and j bass design is a reminder that bass design is simple… and does not need a whole lot of improvement or innovation. Electric amplification, Frets, roundwound strings, active preamps, cnc production, low b’s and now F#, fan frets have all arrived over the years… but down to the core… not a lot has changed since the original innovations of the p bass.

yet i look at my ab1 and think it has an elegant and iconic body, headstock, 3x pickups, and of course fan frets. The beauty is not in fancy woods or paint… but rather the simple and timeless lines.

To me the AB1 in a solid colour is currently the gold standard of modern bass form… and function.
 
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Yet i look at my ab1 and think it has an elegant and iconic body, headstock, 3x pickups, and of course fan frets. The beauty is not in fancy woods or paint… but rather the simple and timeless lines.

To me the AB1 in a solid colour is currently the gold standard of modern bass form… and function.

With a solid color and no pick guard, there is nothing to distract the eye from the elegant lines and curves... :cool:

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Maybe it is just the new bass (to me) honeymoon phase… but i cant help but thinking that Dingwall nailed the apex of bass design 10 or so years ago… and everyone else has been playing catchup.

i think the p and j bass design is a reminder that bass design is simple… and does not need a whole lot of improvement or innovation. Electric amplification, Frets, roundwound strings, active preamps, cnc production, low b’s and now F#, fan frets have all arrived over the years… but down to the core… not a lot has changed since the original innovations of the p bass.

yet i look at my ab1 and think it has an elegant and iconic body, headstock, 3x pickups, and of course fan frets. The beauty is not in fancy woods or paint… but rather the simple and timeless lines.

To me the AB1 in a solid colour is currently the gold standard of modern bass form… and function.

Not to diminish your astute observations, but I now know where I'm going to place my pick on my D-Bird 4/3. :)
 
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Fancy ABs look pretty OK too ;)
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But, honestly, the Z is a step above even the venerable ABs. Those Z series basses really are just on another level in so many ways. I really enjoy my ABs (I wouldn't own 3 if I didn't), but, my Z's and Prima just get so much more play time.

Nobody's saying they aren't. ;) Love the flames. Does this thing sting like a green hornet?
 
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Maybe it is just the new bass (to me) honeymoon phase… but i cant help but thinking that Dingwall nailed the apex of bass design 10 or so years ago… and everyone else has been playing catchup.

i think the p and j bass design is a reminder that bass design is simple… and does not need a whole lot of improvement or innovation. Electric amplification, Frets, roundwound strings, active preamps, cnc production, low b’s and now F#, fan frets have all arrived over the years… but down to the core… not a lot has changed since the original innovations of the p bass.

yet i look at my ab1 and think it has an elegant and iconic body, headstock, 3x pickups, and of course fan frets. The beauty is not in fancy woods or paint… but rather the simple and timeless lines.

To me the AB1 in a solid colour is currently the gold standard of modern bass form… and function.

try coming on 30 yrs ago!!