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Selta said:
Good ear, he's just barely pulling sharp! Pinky playing is certainly something that gets just that smidge extra attention on multiscale for a lot of folks. I don't recall how much effort I had to put in when I started on them, but, it also improved my parallel fret playing (which, now there is almost none of -- my only non-Dingwall is my fretless Pedulla).


I actually just let it be for the most part, with my right hand. It brings about a bit of "humanizing", to me. I do move around where I play when I want something specific, but, I don't put much effort into matching the fanning - at least, not intentionally.
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Same. But have been trying to adresses these kinds of details. It came from watching myself in the mirror a bit.

the changing strings issue is less of one when i do finger-style so i dont bother. But when i play pick i have been trying a lower bass position (i used to play quite high… think tim commerford of ratm). I have my bass at a 45 degree angle so if i go straight down i am exacerbating the effect. Not an issue really, unless i am choosing to play close to the bridge of the b for extra clarity.

it is less of an issue or a non issue in my more traditional “high position” but that adds more wrist bend and i am trying to save myself from lingering carpal tunnel syndrom. Damn desk job is getting the better of me after all these years.
 
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TTA said:
When he frets with his pinkie he consistently makes it go sharp by unintentionally bending the string. I notice because i am trying to un-do the same thing.
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Good ear! It's something I've been working to get out of my playing as well (and I get on my students' cases about it all the time!) but I guess I still have some work to do.
 
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TTA said:
Part of that is that as we play towards the Treble side… you are getting closer and closer to the bridge. So i have worked on intentionally going towards the neck on the gda strings. I often do The opposite as i go towards the b; i try to move in the bridge direction if i am looking for maximum clarity.

for me, adjusting to the fretboard was a non issue. The compensation in my right hand is what i work on the most.
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Exactly, people always ask me how difficult it is to adjust to the fanned fretboard - I tell them that past the first 10 minutes, the only thing I had to work on consciously was was the right hand - moving my plucking fingers more or less in parallel with the slanted pickups. But even doing that I have a little timbre issue with the Dingwall nickels D&G.
 
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1983L2000 said:
Exactly, people always ask me how difficult it is to adjust to the fanned fretboard - I tell them that past the first 10 minutes, the only thing I had to work on consciously was was the right hand - moving my plucking fingers more or less in parallel with the slanted pickups. But even doing that I have a little timbre issue with the Dingwall nickels D&G.
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What is the gauge vs the paysons? And did you try a different set? My ng sounded a bit thin up top but i attributed it to the maple neck (dingwall stock strings). I have yet to change strings. . My ab1 is my only comparison now but it has a wenge neck… and paysons. Not sure the gauge as they came with the bass. The tone is richer overall but i attribute it to the wenge “growl” with more low mids… and it is everywhere… not just the bigger strings.

the paysons are still pretty fresh so now is the time to swap and compare… but i dont want to. Lol.
 
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So here is a question… material (nickel), length, and gauge all the same… what other design elements effect string tone?

how does winding effect it? and material and gauge the same… what design elements cause tension differences?
 
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TTA said:
So here is a question… material (nickel), length, and gauge all the same… what other design elements effect string tone?

how does winding effect it? and material and gauge the same… what design elements cause tension differences?
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If material, length and gauge are all the same, the core construction could vary. Typically round core wire VS hex core. Hex core will give you a stiffer feeling string. Don't know if it affects actual string tension or just stiffness feel.

Also apparently the number of wraps of outer wire over the core is also a thing. GHS are playing with this right now with their "balanced construction" pure nickel strings. Thicker strings typically get three (or more?) wraps, where the thinner strings could get two or one wrap for "typical" construction". GHS Balanced Nickels have an equal number of wraps on each string. I don't know what this does exactly, but there's a huge thread on these in the Strings forum.
 
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TTA said:
What is the gauge vs the paysons? And did you try a different set? My ng sounded a bit thin up top but i attributed it to the maple neck (dingwall stock strings). I have yet to change strings. . My ab1 is my only comparison now but it has a wenge neck… and paysons. Not sure the gauge as they came with the bass. The tone is richer overall but i attribute it to the wenge “growl” with more low mids… and it is everywhere… not just the bigger strings.

the paysons are still pretty fresh so now is the time to swap and compare… but i dont want to. Lol.
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Payson is .130T .105T .085T .065T. 045
Dingwall is .130T .100T .080 .055 .045

i do prefer the slightly bigger A and D as well. I didn't try the medium light payson set (based on Eugene's shootout). I did try the Black daggers (on a C5), their mids cut and growl nicely in the mix (not so much solo), but in the end I found the nickels more versatile. ABZ5 is going Payson Nickels as well in the coming weeks (or perhaps will test the SITs); i've compared it (with Dingwalls) with the other strings on the C5 but like your experience, it's a bit apples and oranges (ABZ has FDVs and wenge fretboard).
 
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1983L2000 said:
Payson is .130T .105T .085T .065T. 045
Dingwall is .130T .100T .080 .055 .045

i do prefer the slightly bigger A and D as well. I didn't try the medium light payson set (based on Eugene's shootout). I did try the Black daggers (on a C5), their mids cut and growl nicely in the mix (not so much solo), but in the end I found the nickels more versatile. ABZ5 is going Payson Nickels as well in the coming weeks (or perhaps will test the SITs); i've compared it (with Dingwalls) with the other strings on the C5 but like your experience, it's a bit apples and oranges (ABZ has FDVs and wenge fretboard).
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The Dingwall nickels are still fresh on my new AB (arrived on the eve of new year's eve), but I already have a set of regular gauge Payson nickel rounds waiting in the wings. I'm so glad I went with the Glock pre - I love hearing the 'natural' voice of this bass. Makes me wonder what the old NG-2 (same wood combinations) would have sounded like with a Glock. :cool:
 

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