• TalkBass has been independent since 1998. Add your voice.
    Create a free account to reply to discussions, view embedded media, and browse with fewer display ads.
    Join freeLog in
    Want zero display ads or expanded classifieds tools? Compare plans.

Dingwall Segmented-Line Fretless

You mean lines on the side only, not on the face? Sure, that eliminates the problem.

Side only is my preference, for exactly this reason. I've had issues with inlaid fretlines causing uneven response. And I also like the look of side only.

But I do see why some players like to have full fret lines so they have that guidance all the way across to the highest string. IMO the need for it vanishes pretty quickly with regular practice; I learned pretty quickly that the actual string-to-fingerboard contact point varies quite a bit depending on what part of your finger is being used (tip versus further back on the pad), so the lines are a lot less useful than one might initially think. You quickly find that you really do have to use your ears, not your eyes, to play in tune. Side dots and lines are a good enough rough guide for me to get my fingers in position for my ears to do the fine tuning. I'm not a pro, I don't get to play a whole lot of hours every day or even every week, so I've never really gotten to the point where I can play with complete confidence all over the neck with my eyes closed. I need some visual reference.
This is exactly what I was referring to and I agree the lines are generally only a rough guideline I use my ears first
 
D5D0AC12-28AC-4780-AA52-A2A0B6C921B3.jpeg
Wow. I was wondering about the odd egg shape of the fret dots at some angles in the photos. Photoshopped? So i looked at my bass at those angles and said… “the fret dots dont look like the picture.”

so i photographed my bass to prove it… and the frets look like odd egg shapes. No photoshop involved. Likely caused by the single lens camera vs our dual lens eyes.
 
You may have missed it, but, I did put my opinion out there. It was previous to yours, in fact, so I'm guessing you maybe didn't read the whole thread:



Again, not looking to change minds. You have your experience, I have mine. I just don't understand the desire or need to put down someone else's effort, just because you don't immediately understand the benefit from it.
Come on, man: relax! :) I myself made a... minimal, quite sarcastic remark, but it does not mean I do not appreciate this new approach, see? Actually it is interesting and somehow substantial: looking at the fretboard with the strings on, you don't even realize that the lines are "segmented". If anything, instead, I am surprised that at Dingwall they only sell something like 6 (yes: six!) fretless per year!!!

P.S.: this is Talkbass, remember? Tough crowd!!! :)
 
a solution to a non existing problem? Well obviously it was a problem to some.

if anything it is over-engineering for an unlikely outcome (for most), but imho it makes sense, is an option (no one is forcing it on the buyer), and if you want fret lines… a nice solution. I am sure it will cost more… but in the world of custom… getting what i want is more important than a few extra dollars. Just my opinion.

That being said… i like frets.

i come from a world of endurance sports car racing. “Over engineering” wins races. I dig it. And remember… Dingwall comes from the land where a 80 degree annual fluctuation in temperature is kind of just the normal… irrespective of humidity.

most exotic sports cars wont be run in polar temperatures… but brands like porsche are still up in the frigid cold testing. Over engineering. But one cant question the quality of the end result.

There are many good cars… many good bases. What separates the best from the rest is often the performance at the “extremes.” And that comes from good design, and “over-engineering.”
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Avezzano
Makes sense...kinda like jeans with elastic wastes...makes life easier for those who don't want to put effort into their level of slimness.

I don't need the lines at all. I don't even look at them. It's not about easier or effort, it's about the fact that my lines glow in the dark and that's cool as heck, i already have unlined fretless, why not have a sick glow in the dark one? Lol