DJ got his feelings hurt!

[KeithBMI]

I wasn't trying to say that all DJ's are better than sliced bread. I think we can all agree that there are bad DJ's!

 

[bass12]

DJ! A Musician!?! Ok what instrument is that he's playing? What chord changes and voicings will he be using tonight? OH! And that song that someone else actually played a guitar and bass on that the DJ's scratching over? It's all clear to me now! Thanks Meatbass

Following this logic a drummer wouldn't qualify as a musician either. Do you know anything about scratching? A good scratch DJ will have more techniques up his sleeve than a master conguero. Maybe your DJ sucks, I don't know, but as a DJ myself I can attest to the skill that is required to be a really good scratch DJ. I wonder if your guitarist (who plays several notes AT ONCE ) has similar criticisms regarding your contribution to the band...

 

[P-oddz]

If the logic is that you get paid for playing "more" then it could be argued that bands who play original material should be paid more than cover bands.

I'm down for this logic! It gets old just playing for free beer and merch dollars.

 

[Floridabwoy]

This band I do some gigs with has a DJ. We played 3 nights over this past week and when we got paid he was upset because I made more $$ than he did! Now feel free to let me know if I'm wrong about this. But as the bassist in the band, I actually plays every note of every song and then some, over a 3 hour gig night. So I actually play an instrument! Are you kidding me! I remember when some people and companies actually would refer to DJ's as musicians! WHAT!?! I had a bit of respect for the DJ's back in the day when they actually brought out cases of records and did their thing! But when I actually got a look at what the DJ's are useing now I lost all respect. So they have turntables that LOOK LIKE records and the rest is a computer program that looks like your screen when you're running Protools or Acid. Don't know about you guys, I would rather watch a real player play than watch and listen to some wankster with his pants hangin off has A** move a computer program around. "Not Sayin I'm just Sayin"

I dj and play bass.... that being said... your are a closeminded egomaniac. It takes YEARS to become a good dj. Learn how to move a crowd, switch it up if they aren't feeling it, beat match, downbeat placement. Believe it or not DJ's pick songs according to key's change keys and tempo's to build set's.

Also.... a lot of dj's play their own music. ***Gasp*** That means they have to be a competent musician to play multiple instruments, know their way around a sequencer, keyboard, bass. Can you do that?

I am tired of this dj's arent musicians, they just press buttons. When I am Djing I am working way harder than when I am playing bass.

 

[mcapote]

I guess its a good thing he don't have a sound guy for his band huh? everyone in my band makes the same if they are less worthy then dont use that addition to the band.

 

[bigfatbass]

What we are overlooking is one very important thing: DJ Short-e is teh hawt.

 

[Deluge Of Sound]

Technically, all western music is "sampling" twelve notes that someone else had already played before any of us picked up any instruments.

If you play a C on your bass, and a DJ samples a C, well, that sounds a whole lot like toe-may-toe/toe-mah-toe to me.

 

[ggunn]

Is a DJ a musician? I would say that it's a matter of perspective. I submit that Jascha Heifetz might not have considered any of us to be musicians.

There are no absolutes. I believe that absolutely.

 

[superbassman2000]

sounds like ego problems, either with the bass player and/or the DJ. there is no "I" in band lol

if you want to pay out on a per-song basis, then bring it up with the band, and figure out percentage of play time and base the pay on that.

As far as DJ'ing goes, It's funny to read one thread where everyone is crying about people saying that bassists are failed guitarist and that it's easier, etc, but then people turn around and bash other musicians for not being "real" musicians...well played

 

[Slater]

Different pay scales should have been discussed before the gig!...

Well, it seems like lesson learned for the DJ. Everyone should know what they're getting paid (or the split, if the pay is variable-like a % of the door and/or bar) before the gig.

I've played in bands where the other members don't know what I get paid, and I didn't know what they got paid.

 

[tycobb73]

In accounting speak, what you are forgetting is the opportunity cost. He got to the gig rougly the same time as you and left roughly the same time as you I'm guessing. Therefore the opportunity he had to make money elsewhere on a time basis was the same as yours. He should be paid the same.

 

[StuartV]

A working band is a business. Whoever owns the business should hire whatever personnel he or they want - whether that's a rhythm guitar player, a backup vocalist, or a DJ. When the person is hired, they should know what they're going to get paid. If the business owner hires a DJ who agrees to work for less money than the bass player, then good for the business owner. And what the bass player gets paid shouldn't matter to the DJ or anybody else.

If the DJ is an equal partner in the business (i.e. the band), then his share of the income should have been agreed upon when the band was formed and would, usually, be expected to be an equal share to all the other band owner/members.

I've worked plenty of places where other employees had the exact same job as I do and got paid different than I do. Sometimes more, sometimes less. That's part of the nature of business and human resources.